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Gas Prices Going Up

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Ubiquitin, Sep 14, 2019.

  1. KingCheetah

    KingCheetah Contributing Member

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    How can we trust this intelligence? I think Trump is falling into a Deep State trap led by Dick Cheney to engage in another massive war in the middle East.
     
  2. NewRoxFan

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    Can't trust trump to tell the truth, nor can we trust saudi arabia to tell the truth. We are in that bad a situation...
     
  3. Dubious

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    Big, immobile, explosive targets.... and they keep poking the beehive

    Kind of makes you expect that this type of attack will become commonplace for guerilla movements around the world.

    1. it makes Texas supplies ever more valuable, all the Permian frackers that bet the ranch and held on by their fingernails are looking pretty good

    2. makes the case for decentralized renewables as vital to National Security for every nation on Earth, or, brings domestic coal back into play
     
  4. KingCheetah

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    I am convinced this is a false flag attack by the United States -- the precision is far too advanced for the Iranian military.

    #BlackHat
    #FalseFlag
    #NeverForget
    #TrumpsWar
    #AlienTech
    #FreeEnergy
    #CheneysHeart
     
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  5. Ubiquitin

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    Lol alien tech.
     
  6. Dubious

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    Would Iranians be liable for just providing drones?
    https://theaviationist.com/2019/09/...e-attacks-on-two-saudi-aramco-oil-facilities/

    But sources in Iraq and Washington say the attacks were launched from Iraq, most likely from pro-Iranian militias operating in the open and guided by Iran’s al-Quds (Revolutionary Guards) forces, led by Major General Qasem Soleimani. It was this same force that recently attempted to launch a swarming drone attack on Israel.
    https://www.asiatimes.com/2019/09/article/saudi-oil-facility-attacks-may-have-come-from-iraq/
     
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    Here is an example of a "drone" used in Syria to shut down Russian airbase last year, it is literally homemade from balsa wood, foam, a GPS receiver, surplus electronics and a cheap electric or tiny gas motor:

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    These are the bombs used against Russia in Syria. The body of the bombs are 3D printed plastic. The fuses are made out of cheap, commonly available parts from simple step-by-step instructions distributed via the internet, and the explosives are fertilizer and powdered aluminum - basically stuff that is everywhere for very legitimate reasons:

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    When Russia got their ass kicked with this kind of drone attack the Russians first tried to pretend it was suicide bombers, then eventually started blaming the US and Turkey in turn for orchestrating it. It's embarassing as hell for your billion-dollar/ruble/euro military to get its ass kicked by some nomad operating out of the cargo bed of a 1997 Toyota Hilux.

    "Drone" conjures images of much more technically sophisticated technology than is actually used in these types of attacks.

    Another picture:

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    There have been multiple waves of drone attacks on Russian bases since the start of 2018. Russia has gotten better at defending the bases, but if you aren't actively protecting against drones, it is basically impossible to defend against.

    You are going to see a lot more of this s**t going forward. They've been doing it very regularly in Syria for the last couple of years, but presumably under the radar of the average American. The people who want to do this stuff don't need help from the US or Russia or Iran. All they need is a Home Depot-type hardware store and an internet connection to download instructions.
     
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  8. VooDooPope

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    I just paid $3.78 traveling in California... and this was before the attack. :eek:
     
  9. JuanValdez

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    MSNBC reports US intelligence says the drones launched from Iran, not Yemen. Things aren't looking good.
     
  10. Buck Turgidson

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    2.09 here

    gasbuddy.com
     
  11. Hemingway

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    I guess,
     
  12. JuanValdez

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    To @NewRoxFan's point, I don't really trust the Trump Admin or the Kingdom to tell us the truth. And we have no reason to believe Iran. But as you allude to, this isn't even new to us. We couldn't -- or shouldn't have -- trusted the Bush Admin 15 years ago. Hell Roosevelt lied to us before WWII because he wanted us to get into the war. You can't trust any of these guys.
     
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  13. cml750

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    Ouch!!!!! That sucks!
     
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    Mental gymnastics of driving an economy car- I feel like I'm winning when gas prices spike for a few minutes, even though it's worse for me too.

    1st car Corvette -> Lincoln town car -> F150 -> F150 -> F150 -> F150... all v8's, now to two 1 liter ecoboxes in a row.
     
  15. FranchiseBlade

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    Yep. We'll be going up to over $4 a gallon.
     
  16. DaDakota

    DaDakota If you want to know, just ask!

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    Let Saudi Arabia deal with their own issues.
    DD
     
  17. AleksandarN

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    Do you listen to your banker about your finances. I bet Trump does.
     
  18. Sanctity

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    I am under the impressions that Texans usually enjoy the best gas prices outside of the Middle East... Up to over a dollar less for premium which is all I use..
     
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  19. cml750

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    Wow, that sucks FB. California is a beautiful state but it sure is expensive.
     
  20. FranchiseBlade

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    That is true. It is expensive.
     

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