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Fire Bill O'Brien

Discussion in 'Houston Texans' started by DonnyMost, Sep 23, 2016.

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Should we fire Bill O'Brien?

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  1. deb4rockets

    deb4rockets Contributing Member
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    Wow, I wonder if any team winning their division at this point in the season, in the history of the NFL has ever been so bad. 8 pts total is just sad and unimpressive.
     
  2. Nook

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    There have been some, typically in mediocre divisions. However only the Giants in the history of the modern NFL have won a SB.

    There is a very, very strong correlation between point differential and winning..... as most people would likely think.

    FWIW last year the Texans were a +50-60 to end the season.
     
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  3. bobrek

    bobrek Politics belong in the D & D

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    2010 Seahawks ended their season winning the division and almost a -100. 2008 Cardinals +1. 2014 Panthers -35. 2011 Broncos -81. And I suspect the list goes on and on.
     
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  4. deb4rockets

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    I was just looking up our 2011 and 2012 seasons, and after week 13 we were +111 and +130. No wonder those seasons were so much more exciting to watch. They make +8 look boring and so much less of a threat. In fact, we are probably a rookie's dream team to play
     
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  5. Hey Now!

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    There are not 17 better playcallers in the NFL. There might be this week or that week - but the *vast* majority of NFL playcallers are middle of the road - he's not appreciably better or worse.

    This remains a longstanding point of contention with me: I think people are so hyper-focused on the Texans that they're (mostly) oblivious to what its like outside that bubble, where most coaches are very much like BO'B. I mean, seriously, spend *any* time in a Chiefs and try and tell me their reactions to Reid - who is a *very* good coach - are significantly different: he mishandles challenges and the clock, routinely underachieves in the playoffs...

    Perfectly rational. I've never argued anything beyond the end of the spectrum where he's the primary blame for everything bad and deserves no credit for anything good.

    They could do better and I'd support their efforts to do so. But they will win - and could win BIG - with BO'B.
     
  6. Hey Now!

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    You guys get wrapped the axle of the silliest stuff... I mean only Texans fans would choose to focus on point-differential - and not record - so they can continue pouting about the team.
     
  7. Mr. Clutch

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    Considering that obriens offense regularly ranks in the bottom 10, I would say he's a below average playcaller
     
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  8. deb4rockets

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    It stems from getting so excited season after season about this team, only to watch a gut wrenching unexpected slaughter. I mean, Baltimore was a knock down, but being down 38-3 against a team with 4 wins with a 1st year head coach and a rookie QB in his second NFL game was just gut wrenching.
     
  9. Houstunna

    Houstunna The Most Unbiased Fan
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    Let’s focus on 1-3 playoff record
    O’brien has managed to have the *worst* differential of every AFC playoff team every season he makes the playoffs. This exists while he’s mostly been leaned on his defense for success. Thank goodness RAC didn’t surrender more points.

    I’d bet O’brien has the worst differential in the postseason too..... 1-3 reflects fittingly
     
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  10. Nimo

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    Average, you say?

     
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  11. TheRealist137

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    BoB knows what he’s doing though
    @Mr.Scarface
     
  12. DatRocketFan

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    is it really though? Like when I watch the game, I can legit tell BoB sucks at offense scheme, but i thought the team puts up a lot of empty stats that inflate Texans offense ratings.
     
  13. Mr. Clutch

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    They have never had a high offensive rating under obrien. In fact before this year they were never even ranked above 20. Some games here and there, but never over a whole season.

    Crennel has had several high ranked defenses though
     
  14. DatRocketFan

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    Can i see da numbers or how u came to this conclusion?
     
  15. Mr. Clutch

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  16. Hey Now!

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    You know... they play more than 2 games/season........
     
  17. Hey Now!

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    And his starting QBs in two of those playoff campaigns were Brian Hoyer and Brock Osweiler.
     
  18. DatRocketFan

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    As a hc, why is he absolved of blame on who he choose to roll with in playoffs? He chose those two and failed miserable to use his offensive talent to make his qbs look competent.
     
  19. Hey Now!

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    He won 9 games and, you know, made the playoffs with both QBs... They were - as poor QBs often are - exposed against better competition.
     
  20. FLASH21

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    It's still pretty average by any standards when you look at his overall record.

    51-46 NFL career record

    The playoffs is a completely different story.
     

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