Even if/when Trump Loses, It's Our Failed System/Institutions that Make Him Possible

real_egal · Nov 5, 2020

calurker said: ↑

Speaking as a metropolitan Californian who overwhelmingly votes Democrat, what’s the logic behind the narrative if CA supports candidate 1 by 95% and IA, MO, IN, OH and PA support candidate 2 by 50.01% that somehow it’s more democratic for candidate 1 to win? Why? So the will of the people who mill steel, build cars and planes, raise cattle, grow crops, etc. etc. etc. can be further trampled by people who make movies and code apps? How is that any more democratic? Instead of calling people who lead useful lives (and I’d say, far more useful lives than deskjockies) xenophobic idiots or products of a broken system, maybe try to understand their fears and aspirations on a human level?
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OTOH, GOP candidate leaning voters in CA and NY will be encouraged to voice their opinions and vote, because theirs votes, every single one of them, truly matters. Maybe then, only then, a meaningful independent candidate might emerge someday, who doesn't have billions of dollars to spend, but still holds a remote chance to serve.

glynch · Nov 5, 2020

SamFisher said: ↑

I'm not young anymore, and our system seems pretty ****ing broken as compared to even 5 years ago.
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Agreed, but it is not just the last 5 years, though it is getting worse. The rules i.e. the Constitution sucks and has been hacked by the billionaires.
Your probably aware of the non fiction bestseller "Democracy in Chains". If not check it out for a history of how the Kochs and others had a sneaky 20 plus year to use the defects in our ancient, essentially non-amendable Constitution to their advantage. https://bookoutlet.com/Store/Detail...4DI6usTif939BbDY2lCrg9ldrrZtmd1BoCedMQAvD_BwE

Invisible Fan · Nov 5, 2020

glynch said: ↑

Agreed, but it is not just the last 5 years, though it is getting worse. The rules i.e. the Constitution sucks and has been hacked by the billionaires.
Your probably aware of the non fiction bestseller "Democracy in Chains". If not check it out for a history of how the Kochs and others had a sneaky 20 plus year to use the defects in our ancient, essentially non-amendable Constitution to their advantage. https://bookoutlet.com/Store/Detail...4DI6usTif939BbDY2lCrg9ldrrZtmd1BoCedMQAvD_BwE
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