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[ESPN/Spears] Is this it for Melo? [How/When the decision was made to pull the plug]

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Deuce, Nov 16, 2018.

  1. juanm34

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    MDA felt pressure to play melons.
    Ultimately that may of lead to the disfunction of the team. We are trying to win a championship not a friendship. The guy deserves to end his career how he wants to, not rotting away on our bench .
    Bye Carmelo....
     
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    Not only is there more to this, a good part of what was written ain't true. It's old fashioned bullcorn.
     
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    @Codman @cyberx

    Could you guys give a little more light into this situation or nah?
     
  4. ElPigto

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    It makes sense that MDA felt pressure to play Melo, considering their past, you would have people that believe he is holding some kind of grudge and not playing him on purpose. Makes sense that the Rockets wanted to avoid the media circus of Melo not playing as well.

    Essentially a lot of the stuff we speculated, that the Rockets were going to reduce his role and minutes. Melo had to go talk to John to figure out how to deal with the issue, because like Lucas said, dude has a huge ego, hard to just suddenly go from playing to not playing at all. I think it was the right decision for both parties to go their separate ways.
     
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  6. Mathloom

    Mathloom Shameless Optimist
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    We paid (in the form of Melton) to dump Ryno for a slightly less terrible contract and an expiring contract. Now, as of the last few games, Ryno is struggling to get minutes on the worst team in the NBA. I'm not sure how you think this comparison is aiding you.

    You keep trying to make this point and it's ridiculous. Stop pointing fingers everywhere else. It's becoming sadly obvious that the reason you commiserate with Melo so much is because you share that trait. You seem to think something or someone else is always the problem. Melo was in total control of this situation and did not succeed. He was not going to be played because his presence on the floor is more negative than 7-8 other guys on this roster.

    If you take Melo's total number of shots, and redistribute his shot selection to put 80-90% of them as rim 2's or 3's, he would immediately cease to be a net negative even with porous defense. It was his choice to not do that. He chose to do the thing that got worse every season: inefficient offense and poor defense. Even if we grant him that he is trying his best yet incapable of playing good defense, his shot selection is 100% on him.

    EVEN if MDA and Bzdelik had it out for him, if he was producing he would be a part of the rotation if he had just taken shots he's statistically better at making. Even without rhythm shots and rhythm, he was making 3's and 2's at an acceptable rate and he could have just focused on those.

    You can't have it both ways. You've been in threads all over the place about how this was some conspiracy to get him out, meanwhile talking ish to people who would even dare hypothesize anything other than what has been stated verbatim by Woj/Shams. Have some principles. If all you're going to accept from others is your favorite part of Woj/Shams, then stick to that standard yourself and stop making things up that make no sense. MDA wants to win, and if Melo was a positive on the court, this would be a happy story.
     
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  7. J.R.

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    You'll have to ask Daryl.
     
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    It sounds like they didn’t even give him a choice, just assumed it would be a distraction and cut him. that’s pretty messed up IMO. I’m starting to believe this is all Bzdelik. He told them he would only come back if Melo is gone, so they came up with an excuse to release him. I maintain that Melo’s net negative rating had more to do with who he was on the floor with rather than his own poor play. Everyone tried to make it sound like Melo was in the Locker room complaining about starting/minutes the whole time and it turns out that isn’t the case. Not cool man, not cool at all.
     
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  9. Swish4fives

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    He was a terrible fit for this team. Ball stopper on offense and swiss cheese on defense.
     
  10. MghtyPtrck

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    But if that’s the case you know this will cause a much greater conflict between players (namely CP3) and the coaches/front office. I think this is pure coincidence
     
  11. Dankstronaut

    Dankstronaut Way, way out here.
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    Pretty sure folks been pushing Anderson out since the 1st day he signed here. Melo is the one pushing Melo to be a tank commander instead of a veteran backup. Blatantly obvious...
     
  12. daywalker02

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    Enlighten us then, mighty Holic!
     
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    You believe in conspiracy.
     
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    No. I understand the game of basketball. We went 0-22 from 3 in a game 7 last year. It would HELP if you incorporated a midrange post player that could get you buckets in stretches. You see, in the playoffs the game tends to slow down tremendously. The game becomes a half court game. Melo with all his deficiencies, can get you post points AND can get hot from 3 (through stretches). If we can push GS to game 7 with Ryan Anderson, we can beat GS with Carmelo in a similar role. But MDA's grudge won't allow that

    Melo WANTED to be here & was blindsided by being waived. Jacking up 3's HOPING you beat GS won't work this year. The Rockets needed another midrange option outside of CP
     
  15. Voltik

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    CP3 isn’t going anywhere or will want to as long as we are winning. He seemed to be in a good mood in past few games despite Melo’s outing.
     
  16. hakeemthagreat

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    How did Melo push himself outta Houston after 10 games?
     
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    I keep reading here about MDA and Bzdelik holding grudges and what not. Any evidence of that? What is the source of this conspiracy theory?

    To me, it seems like the Rockets were worse with Melo on the floor, so MDA, whose job is to win, decided to replace his minutes with players that gave the Rockets a better chance to win. And lo and behold, the Rockets are winning more now (although I'm sure other factors, such as health are contributing to that).

    What happened after that decision was made, whether this story that the Rockets, out of courtesy and respect, decided to part ways with Melo...or perhaps Melo decided to part ways with the Rockets because he was not going to adjust to DNPs, is all up to speculation. But in the end, I find it very unlikely that MDA and his staff will put a player out there for the first 10 games out of spite, and watch their team falter, considering their jobs and reputations will be on the line as well.
     
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  18. Dankstronaut

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    Because he won’t accept being a reserve.
     
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  19. macan

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    melo is like iverson in his final year..they just couldn't accept reality..no one can beat father time
     
  20. napalm06

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    Without concrete evidence, any time posters on here are writing paragraphs about Melo on either side, it's conspiracy. People really want their beliefs to be confirmed.

    So little has actually been confirmed. We probably won't know for a while.
     
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