[ESPN Insider] Projecting Top 10 Point Guards for 2013-14

rose dosent belong in any list till we seem him play again.

just like people on lakersground saying kobe is STILL the best player in the NBA even after his injury he hasnt even recovered from.....

 

Lowry number 8? Please.

I break my top ten down into tiers.

Tier 1:
Paul, Rose*

Tier 2:
Westbrook, Parker

Tier 3:
Irving, Rondo, Williams, Rubio, Curry, Wall, Lillard

*assume Rose returns to at least 95%

 

When I am not seeing Parker on the top 3, I know the author does not know basketball.

Please show me 1 player, anyone that can stop Parker penetrating the paint?

 

Westbrook is better defender and shooter than Rose..

 

I see it this way -

Tier 1:
Chris Paul

Tier 2:
Healthy Rose, Westbrook, Parker

Tier 3:
Irving (could very well jump to tier 2 with likely improvement given his hage), Deron Williams, Curry, Wall

 

D will is overrated, so is CP3

 

I'm getting the sense that you guys didn't actually read the article. The rankings are based on projected WARP, it's not a list ranking the top 10 PGs in the league.

 

Toronto would do Lin for Lowry swap in a heartbeat. Right now,Lin's a better player/shooter when playing off the ball. Lowry still needs to prove he can play with Rudy Gay.

 

WTH is Lowry doing on this list? I'd put Vasquez before I put Lowry.

 

HOW THEY GOING TO SNUB JLIN7??

 

On the one hand, you're right. He's running a model and telling us the output of his model. He's not going to go do this model and at the end say, 'oh well, I'll just bump up Parker to #3, that feels about right.' On the other hand, a model that puts Parker that low probably has systemic problems.

And, he DOES say it's a listing of the top-10 PGs. He says WARP is "perfect for this kind of exercise" of ranking the top players.

 

Ugh, the reason they give for excluding Parker is his age (32 next season)... Seriously, do they expect him to just drop off the map in 1 year after being a top 2 PG last season?

Edit:

Exactly, this is the projected WARP and not the WARP using stats from last season. That's why you have Parker with a WARP lower than his 2 previous seasons. They're predicting improvements (Kyrie, etc.) and drop-offs (Parker, etc.)... Considering there is still an element of human input in these "stats"... I think it's fair for people to critique it.

 

hell no to Rubio at tier 3

 

If I had to pay to read this stuff, I'd be a bit ticked off. Still, thanks to the OP for posting it, even if the ratings make little sense, at least to me.

 

I think goran dragic should be in that list somewhere?

 

Because it's fashionable to diss Jeremy Lin. No seriously, no one wants to be called LOF nowadays

 

Lost credibility as soon as I saw Parker didn't make top 10 and Rondo wasn't even in the discussion.
Even after a whole season out, Rose got into the top 8 so I would expect Rondo to make it too.

 

Not even the computers like Lin. Racist.

 

This is piling on, but Bradford Doolittle should be fired for listing Tony Parker as the THIRTEENTH best point guard.

Kyle Lowry > Lawson/Lillard > Tony Parker

LMFAO!!! Even the biggest Lowry homer wouldn't think that.

Delusion Bradford Doolittle

 

^ err, Delusional