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Dwight Howard traded to Charlotte

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by J.R., Jun 20, 2017.

  1. Daddy Long Legs

    Daddy Long Legs H- Town Harden

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    me lol.

    unless the #11 is used to trade for a win now player who can help us this season like paul george lol
     
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  2. FLASH21

    FLASH21 Heart O' Champs

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    Damn, that was a salary dump trade.

    How shitty it must be for him....
     
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  3. Rocket_Man_2.0

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    Dwight Howard is fools gold...his free throw shooting and and poor percentage post ups will kill any offense! Relies on athleticism over skill...he'll be out of the league playing in China after his contract is up!!
     
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  4. BigMaloe

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    How do you get that player without that pick? Bev doesn't do it, that's for sure.

    That's a better return than you got for lowry.
     
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  5. Daddy Long Legs

    Daddy Long Legs H- Town Harden

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    I agree. My only point is that it is an undesirable situation to trade bev for 11 pick and be stuck with using the pick because the right guy isn't available via trade.

    Sucks that warriors are gonna dominate this era but we are very much in win now mode I think
     
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  6. BackdoorHarden

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    So true. When the Warriors traded Richard Jefferson,Andris Beidrens, and 2 1st round pick, everyone thought it was to sign Dwight.

    Then it turned out Dwight didn't want to go to the Warriors. The Warriors were desperate for a "Super star" and the owner demanded they go all out for Dwight.

    Warriors are so lucky, Dwight said no
     
  7. tmac

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    Heh heh.
     
  8. BackdoorHarden

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    Damn you Dwight!!! You could haVe stopped the Warriors from Happening!! THIS IS ALL YOUR FAULT DWIGHT!!! Why didn't you want to go to the WARRIORS????

    Dwight Howard Rumors: Golden State Warriors Pursue Trade for Orlando Magic Center, According to Report
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    by Evan Dunlap Feb 28, 2012, 9:34pm EST
    The Golden State Warriors are willing to trade for Orlando Magic center Dwight Howard even if the six-time All-Star won't commit to staying with them beyond the 2011/12 season, reports Scott Howard-Cooper of NBA.com: "[The Warriors are] not backing off from risky move, source says." According to Howard-Cooper, Golden State's offer "has to be 3-4 key players," as center Andris Biedrins "has zero trade value." The NBA.com scribe speculates the Warriors would be willing to package scoring guard Monta Ellis, rookie swingman Klay Thompson, and others in a trade for Howard.

    The Warriors aren't among the teams to which Howard, who can become a free agent during the summer, would commit long-term; those clubs are the Dallas Mavericks, Los Angeles Lakers, and New Jersey Nets. But Golden State seems to believe Howard could be convinced to stay after playing for it for the rest of the 2011/12 schedule. Entering the All-Star Break, the Warriors were in 12th place in the Western Conference, 3.5 games back of the Portland Trail Blazers for the final playoff seed
     
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  9. BigMaloe

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    If we got that pick I don't think we would use it. I think we would trade it for a future pick with complicated top and bottom restrictions (something like 5-15 protection) if we couldn't acquire a great piece we like
     
  10. BackdoorHarden

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    Wow. From 2013...This was less than 4 years ago!!!

    ROCKETS WIN THE BIG PRIZE and WARRIORS LOSE BIG WHEN DWIGHT SIGNS WITH ROCKETS!!!!


    ElhassanESPN Staff Writer 2013

    The biggest domino of free agency finally fell on Friday, with Dwight Howard leaving the Los Angeles Lakers to agree to terms with the Houston Rockets. While his move to Houston cannot become official until July 10, he informed the remaining suitors of his decision, setting up the post-decision scramble for the remaining talent in the free agent market.

    The Golden State Warriors' inclusion on the list of suitors was an upset in and of itself, since they were the only team over the salary cap to be in the running for Howard's services. Creating enough flexibility to sign him outright would have required moving more than $30 million of salary in trades to teams with cap space to absorb the incoming players without having to send anything back. Trying to engage the Lakers in a sign-and-trade for Howard would have come at the cost of one or several of the young assets that make the Warriors a desirable destination in the first place: Stephen Curry, Harrison Barnes, or Klay Thompson. But ultimately, the biggest risk was in relying on Howard to make a decision to take his talents to the Bay Area; without a solid plan B, the Warriors were risking breaking up a solid young nucleus, damaging incredible team chemistry and then ending up empty-handed.

    While the other suitors' Plan B allowed them the flexibility to pursue the "next best available player" (a la the draft), Golden State had to act proactively. That meant gambling that Howard would not choose the Warriors and going after another marquee free agent before Howard made his decision. The gamble paid off, as Andre Iguodala agreed to a 4-year, $48 million contract after Golden State created the room to sign him by trading more than $24 million in expiring contracts to Utah.
     
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  11. jayhow92

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    they had to give up the 31st pick as well? What the heck? That pick has a decent amount of value to it
     
  12. KingCheetah

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    PFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFTTT !
     
  13. Rox11

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    Word is he said he wants to start shooting 3's so weeks ago for the upcoming season? LOL scared them
     
  14. Rocket_Man_2.0

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    Dwight Howard set this team back big time....we could've been the Warriors! Three years of Hardens prime gone down the drain!:confused:
     
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  15. A_3PO

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    When Dwight said he was going to start shooting 3s, that was his way of telling the Hawks "trade me or I will become an even bigger problem for you".

    I knew he was a goner after that interview. Maybe Clifford and MJ can convince Dwight to play within his limitations.
     
  16. BackdoorHarden

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    WOW. This writer in 2013 predicted that the Warriors would win a Championship IF THEY DON"T SIGN HOWARD.


    SAN JOSE — In a few days, this madness will surely be over. Dwight Howard will sign with the Houston Rockets. Or maybe he will return to the Los Angeles Lakers.

    And the Warriors will have saved themselves from a potential Nightmare on Dwight Street.

    No pulling punches here. It’s still hard for me to fathom that the Golden State front office, which has made so many smart moves in the past two years, is seriously pursuing Howard at all. Granted, the man is 6-foot-11 and is built like a national monument. He has talent and charisma. He’s won an Olympic gold medal and a bunch of playoff games. He is only 27 years old.

    But for the Warriors, he would not be worth the sort of trouble he has caused elsewhere and is likely to cause again. Drafted out of high school, Howard has embraced immaturity with both arms. He left the Orlando Magic, his first NBA team, under a stink cloud after he asked the team to fire coach Stan Van Gundy in 2012, which the Magic did, and then Howard still demanded a trade.

    When he was subsequently dealt to the Lakers before last season, Howard looked like an iPhone operating system on an Android device or vice versa, never quite meshing. Howard could never figure out how to execute a smooth pick-and-roll with point guard Steve Nash, if you can believe that. And there were reports of his grousing about Kobe Bryant shooting too much.

    In other words, there was all sorts of drama that the Warriors avoided last winter as they rounded themselves into shape as a scrappy playoff team under coach Mark Jackson. Do they really want such drama now? A few months ago, Warriors general manager Bob Myers was candid and forthright in a sit-down interview with me. Myers talked about having the right mix of personalities both on the court and in the locker room. Myers hinted that the big Warriors free-agent move might occur in the summer of 2014 after some salary-cap-albatross contracts expire.

    I am not privy to any internal Warriors discussions. Let me emphasize that: Not. Privy. To. Anything. But I can’t believe that Myers and Jackson would be as gung-ho about a possible Howard acquisition as would team co-owner Joe Lacob, a man who has never met a big splash he didn’t want to turn into an even bigger splash, preferably with confetti, a laser light show and dancing polar bears.

    And make no mistake, the signing of Howard would be a big splash. It would draw national attention to the Warriors every time they take the court. It would also be risking another trip into the hideous depths of the Warriors Big Man Curse.

    Haven’t Lacob or the other Warriors decision makers studied their own team’s history? Ever since Nate Thurmond left the team in 1974, there has been a consistent theme through multiple ownerships and multiple coaches: the foolish pursuit of the “perfect” franchise center that will solve all problems. In every case, the moves have backfired. In some cases, they have set back franchise progress by five or more years:

    • In 1980, the curse led the Warriors to make possibly the worst trade in NBA history. They sent Robert Parish and a top draft choice (which eventually became Kevin McHale) to the Boston Celtics for the rights to pick Joe Barry Carroll with the first overall selection. After a promising start, Carroll established his reputation as “Joe Barely Cares” and drew scorn from fans.
    • In 1987, the curse inspired Golden State to trade Carroll and Eric “Sleepy” Floyd to Houston for 7-foot-4 Ralph Sampson. Sampson did squat for Golden State in two seasons and was traded to Sacramento.
    • In 1993, the curse provoked the Warriors into swinging a draft day deal for Chris Webber, the No. 1 overall pick. They saw him as their center for the next 10 or 15 seasons. But it turned out Webber didn’t want to play center and hated coach Don Nelson. After his rookie season, Webber exercised a contract escape clause and forced a trade.
      Do the Warriors honestly want to challenge this curse again? I suppose it’s possible. It’s also possible they are staging some elaborate Kabuki theater — pursuing Howard as a showy message that the team wants to be players in future potential big-name deals, with no real intention of ever truly consummating a Howard transaction.

      I hope that’s the case. Warriors fans have endured so much. I understand their excitement and impatience to take the huge Howard leap, figuring that Jackson’s immense people skills as a coach could make it all work. But has anyone considered that if Jackson has to spend extra time coddling Howard, then the coach will have less time to work on all the other stuff that made the Warriors so effective last season?

      Golden State can build itself into a true title contender by 2015 or 2016 with the correct decision-making.
     
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  17. BackdoorHarden

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    Right...just like Kobe, Kareem, and all those great Lakers convinced him. Just like Yao Ming, Hakeem ,and all those great HOF Centers convinced Dwight. Just like Ewing convinced Dwight....

    I think the only person that can convice Dwight is Andrew Byrum...they are both dumb
     
  18. acsorelle4

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    Read those tweets was pretty cathartic.
     
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  19. Mathloom

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    Great trade for Charlotte. Will improve significantly with the additions of Dwight, #11 and #31.

    I think they should blow it up of course. But if they're all in, this is a good move. Will be really good for Dwight too. Zeller will be a good backup, Kaminsky and Marvin will create spacing.

    If he's getting lighter and he takes this seriously, they could finish top 4 in the East.
     
  20. BackdoorHarden

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    You said it Bro. Warriors were ready to sign him, but he Choosee chooosee you Houston. DAMN YOU DWIGHT, WHY DIDN"T YOU PICK WARRIORS


    Are the Warriors the Rockets biggest threat to sign Dwight Howard as Lakers ponder sign-and-trade?
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    The Warriors have tried to make a number of big moves to clear cap space for Dwight Howard. Will they pass up the Rockets and land Dwight?
    by Patrick Harrel Jul 5, 2013, 1:06am CDT

    The Warriors have been gaining traction over the past few days as a legitimate contender to snatch away Howard, but the issue of the salary cap had always held them back from joining the true contenders for Dwight. In their article, Shelburne and Stein discuss why:

    The Rockets and the Mavericks, in that order, have been generally regarded as the biggest threats to steal away Howard, but the Warriors have increasingly been tipped by sources close to the process as a threat coming up fast on the outside. That's despite the Warriors' apparent salary-cap limitations and a sentiment stemming largely from a Monday sitdown that, as ESPN.com later reported, made an undeniable "impression" on Howard.

    Tonight, however, with word that the Lakers might be open to a sign-and-trade and the reports discussing how the Warriors might dump money if unable to agree on a sign-and-trade with LA, they may have jumped back in the game on that front.

    Even though it would be tough to land Howard, you get the sense that the Warriors could make it work if Howard indicated that that was his preference. After all, to get spectacular players you sometimes need to make spectacular changes.

    With time ticking down on this Dwightmare, Rockets fans have to hope that their pitch made enough of a difference to keep Howard from getting too interested in the Warriors. At this point, only Dwight knows.
     

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