Both Dillon and VanVleet are going to have problems with the no flopping rule enforcement this season
@daywalker02 Dillon Brooks is predicted #1 on B/R article https://bleacherreport.com/articles...yers-will-get-most-flopping-techs-this-season I can't believe VanVleet didn't make the list at #4, right behind Lowry
Sounds like that is going to be a league wide prob since Dillon and VV are only two of the 300+ players which vary from being avg or Oscar worthy at selling the flop
Yeap, and two of the most prominent on the same team. VanVleet learned from Lowry. Those diminutive guards like Trae, Lowry, VanVleet always try to work the refs over and use their size (or lack thereof) to their advantage. Notice Trae Young is on that list? I said most of last year that KPj turnovers are because of the enforcement of the travel call.....which many players got called for. It took him about 40 games to get use to it. Nobody cried a river and mentioned.....but what about the other 300+ players?
Fans of those team dont complain when it goes in their favor, its why Vlade was beloved by the Kings and other supreme floppers as well in most recent history A lot more traveling calls went against others league wide as well, just as the refs miss a bunch of calls from all facets KPJ turnovers also came with him driving into 2/3 defenders and being careless with the ball, which seemed to happen more than traveling turnovers, hopefully he cleans it all up in his 5th season
KPj dribbling into 3 defenders goes with packed paint because the only 3-pt threat was Eric Gordon [ packed paint as a result ] and Sengun was always too slow to get out of high screen position which forced both KPj and Green to have to snake the dribble in order to buy Sengun time to get into the PnR play. As I've noted, John Collins PnR gets parallel or in front of the action quickly.....Trae /Murray don't have to snake the dribble. The hope is players hit 3's this year that they didn't hit last year. Team had the most open 3's in the league for a reason. _______ I've also mentioned before: KPj (22/23): 3.3 turnovers FVv (22/23): 2.0 turnovers But when you break it down: first 25 games of both: (22/23) KPj: 3.8 turnovers per game FVv: 1.9 turnovers per game Both, games after the first 25 games to end of season: KPj: 2.7 turnovers (34 games) FVv: 2.1 turnovers (44 games) But as I said KPj had to adjust to the travel call around 40 games, since it was only his second year playing PG: KPj first 30 games (22/23): 3.9 turnovers KPj next (final) 29 games (22/23): 2.4 turnovers as I've noted FVv was 2.1 turnovers in final 44 games of 22/23. https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/35174596/nba-new-focus-traveling-how-players-teams-adjusting Here are the two (KPj/FVv) on drives in 22/23: Drives (22/23) .........drives....FGA...FG%...pts...pass...pass%...Ast....TO....TOV% KPj:.....14.1......5.3.....44.2....6.5....6.6......47.0......1.6.....0.9.....6.4 FVv:.....13.9......4.2....44.4....5.4....8.0.......57.7.....2.0.....0.6.....4.4 again, FVv had decent shooters in OG & Trent.....Rockets ?who? and the addition of Poeltl. FVv assists before Poeltl: 6.5 (KPj was 6.2 in 21/22) FVv assists after Poeltl added: 8.6 ________ Here is the KPj - FVv % FGA by distance: (22/23) ........2P%....0-3....3-10....10-16....16-3P.....3P KPj:..56.4....15.3....22.1.....11.5........0.76.....43.6 FVv:..45.5....12.0....14.4.....0.91.......10.1......54.5 Here is the KPj - FVv FG% by distance: (22/23) .........2P%....0-3....3-10.....10-16.....16-3P.....3P KPj:...50.1....71.1....38.5.......46.1........47.8......36.6 FVv:...45.5....58.6....37.5.......40.6........45.5.....34.2 So I'll stop railing against Freddy.....this is suppose to be about flopping and the turnovers that will result. As I've said last season....the Turnover fake rage was overblown last season. Not much difference in KPj and FVv except teammates and a better coach on a team not tanking. On a good note: KPj was: 48.9 from corner 3's ( .117 of his FGA's from there) & FVv was: 41.9 from corner 3's ( .112 of his FGA's from there) That's the best spacing I can find on this team....maybe let Amen facilitate. But, I digress.
the turnovers went down also by sharing more of the duties with Senhub/Green being more involved Hopefully KPJ can continue to build on past sesson and play his natural spot and catch and shoot and create here and there, but most of his turnovers were not just fron a traveling violation, it was a combo of things which he can clean up if locked in I don't thunk VV is worth what he signed for but it is what it be, he replaced the head honcho as the quasi PG/leader of the team, the crazy contract alone verifies that
That goes both ways....VanVleet had a slight uptick in turnovers because he was asked to be more involved in the offense. Every Raptor fan and team pundit says VanVleet was asked to be more off ball to start the season. That was failing miserably as VanVleet was sporting crappy FG numbers as an off ball threat. Then they traded for Poeltl which gave them more of that inside presence rolling to the rim. But with that came more risks threading a needle. Poeltl is not exactly a lob threat but can push and shove enough to create some windows for passing. If VanVleet didn't walk the ball up the court every trip his turnovers would have kicked up as well. Always playing it safe and being scared to take risk or pick up the pace may keep turnovers down but it doesn't necessarily equate to more wins.... especially if you have no spacing in the form of 3-pointers and you force your team to face the opponents set half court defense every time. That's selfish and only thinking of your individual stats going into free agency. Some are suggesting VanVleet play more off ball. Raptors tried that last year. Didn't work. And I hate the idea of placing someone we just paid $43M per year to be a decoy. Not having it, personally.
Yeah it works that way for all players VV and Brooks robbed the Rockets free agent brinks truck with water guns and butter knives Guess the Rockets sponsors decided they wanted to upgrade the PG position from a vet leadership angle, so maybe they are paying 20$ mill for that vet locker room presence and the other half $ for VV actual floor game, which for some reason they lost faith in the self-proclaimed PG/head honcho who they benched the other 40$ mill man in Wall to give the free reign to head honcho you never pay a player 30+ million annually to be a decoy, you pay them that amount to be 1st/2nd All NBA caliber, just my 2 cents
Set bad example, imagine Tari or Whitmore asking for near max or max after being bench players to occasional starters.
Brilliant, guys that know VanVleet like Nick Nurse and Masai U are idiots for making an elite point guard like VanVleet an off ball threat.......OR MAYBE THE GUYS THAT TRULY KNOW HIM KNOW THAT VANVLEET IS NOT AN ELITE POINT GUARD!! https://www.si.com/nba/raptors/news...rse-wants-to-move-fred-vanvleet-more-off-ball per topic, the refs aren't going to bail out Dillon Brooks or VanVleet this season like they have in the past. Expect their crappy below 40% FG% to be much the same and refs to look at them and say, "play on" b*tches. Turnovers added for flopping calls. I don't give a F about other players....I give a F about the quantity of floppers on one team. My favorite team. What that does is kill momentum, continuity, fluidity for the Rockets offense. Same as mere turnovers does. Something I was told the addition of VanVleet was going to help. Fact is all the stats I've posted recently show little to no separation between KPj and his $16M vs VanVleet and his $43M. Like non. Other than VanVleet can pass as white and that he is a father of 3. Both of which KPj is not. VanVleet was best coming off the vs 2nd units.....as a starter he has sucked the last two years without Lowry.
