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Dilbert's Scott Adams Explains "How To Know You're In A Mass Hysteria Bubble"

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  1. Nook

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    I read Dilbert when he was relevant... but I do think people take him more serious than he takes himself. The thing with his wife is weird though.
     
  2. Invisible Fan

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    Everyone is an expert.

    It'll get so bad that elitists from both parties will seek to reign in the dummies
     
  3. Amiga

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    discussing this Rasmussen poll?

     
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    saying the quiet part out loud

    people like him are evil…the spawn of Satan himself

    and they want to act like racism doesn’t exist and try to whitewash history…LOL
     
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    Dont see the results of this poll anywhere. Was he reacting to the percentage of black people who answers “no” to the question of whether it’s ok to be white?
     
  7. Os Trigonum

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    it's difficult to tell from the clip that was provided
     
  8. Amiga

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    Yes.

    As for the poll ...

    Polling without providing any context for respondents to consider and instead allowing them to imagine their own context is an extremely ineffective method of polling. It almost seems like the intention is to obtain a particular result. Given that IOTBW is a known alt-right trolling campaign, it is difficult to believe that Rasmussen pollsters were not aware of this context, and it is highly probable that they were after a specific result.

    Questions - Okay To Be White - February 13-15, 2023 - Rasmussen Reports®

    National Survey of 1,000 American Adults
    Conducted February 13-15, 2023
    By Rasmussen Reports

    1* Do you agree or disagree with this statement: “It’s OK to be white.”

    2* Do you agree or disagree with this statement: “Black people can be racist, too.”

    NOTE: Margin of Sampling Error, +/- 3 percentage points with a 95% level of confidence

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/It's_okay_to_be_white

    "It's okay to be white" (IOTBW) is a slogan which originated as part of an organized alt-right trolling campaign on the website 4chan's discussion board /pol/ in 2017.[1] A /pol/ user described it as a proof of concept that an otherwise innocuous message could be used maliciously to spark media backlash.[2][3] Posters and stickers stating "It's okay to be white" were placed in streets in the United States as well as on campuses in the United States, Canada, Australia and the United Kingdom.[1][3]

    The slogan has been supported by white supremacists including neo-Nazis.[4] Fox News host Tucker Carlson defended the slogan, stating that "being white [...] is not something you can control".[5] The Root compared it with the children's book It's Okay to Be Different and said, "White folks have taken that beautiful sentiment and distorted it to suit their infinite need to center themselves".[6]


    Background
    The suggestion for the use of posters with the saying originated on the message board /pol/ of 4chan, with the intent of provoking reactions. The saying was later spread by neo-Nazi groups and politically organized white supremacists, including former Ku Klux Klan Grand Wizard David Duke and The Daily Stormer.[4] A report by the ADL states that the phrase itself has a history within the white supremacist movement going back to 2001 when it was used as the title of a song by a white power music group called Aggressive Force as well as fliers with the phrase being spotted in 2005 and the slogan being used by a member of the United Klans of America.[1]
     
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    Honestly I was hoping this was a deep fake. That is pretty disturbing.

    Also he’s drawing a lot of conclusions from the polling and from social media. If anything this shows how much of a bubble he’s in in if his social media is feeding him daily videos of Black people attacking white people.
     
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    It is okay to be white. But I wouldn't go around saying so -- sounds racist to assert.
     
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    "It's ok to be white" was a slogan of white supremacist - they used it on fliers and in all sorts of other ways. It's the slogan and how it's used that the ADL is referring to, not the idea of being white and that's ok.

    Question for you, do you consider context?
     
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    I didn't know that about the slogan, but on just a casual perusal it appears there might be a pretty good likelihood that this is some sort of (bizarre) satirical Swiftian modest proposal
     
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    I hope it is and that he’s not actually racial separation.
     
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    Well, people reading Swift aren’t nodding along thinking to themselves, “This guy is just spitting out truths you’re not allowed to say out loud!”

    I’m pretty sure that the majority of people following Adams were thinking just that.

    Let’s see if he posts a follow up to clarify his meaning, or decides to just let people figure out his meaning for themselves while smuggly sipping from his coffee mug.
     
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    I do not think it's some satire.
     
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    It’s like a slogan, “It’s ok to be rich” or “It’s ok to be beautiful” (according to the dominant beauty standards of the society).

    Yes, it’s “ok” to have good fortune in one’s birth or the path one’s life took. It’s not ok to refuse to acknowledge that good fortune or look down on others without consideration for how they may not have had the same privileged birth or life path.

    The phrase “It’s ok to be white” may be interpreted as “It’s ok to be white and be dismissive or ignorant of the significant social benefits that entails”.
     
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    This is the problem with polls on a lot of this stuff.

    Context is completely lost...... even on something as simple as "it is okay to be white"....... who says it, the context and how it is said all matter.

    It is similar to the whole issue of national pride, it can be a slippery slope.
     
  18. Nook

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    A couple observations.

    Because of my genetic ethnicity, I am often viewed as very white by other white people, and a lot of assumptions are made by older white men when they work with me, see me in a social setting, etc.

    What Adams said is something that I have heard before a number of times. He was a little more direct, but really even with how direct he is, the only thing surprising is that he said it on social media.

    There are a lot of older white people that believe that because they don't say anything purposely racist to black people, or physically hurt them - that they as white people are not benefitting in anyway being white, and that the rules etc. and society is a blank slate.......and as a result they have no responsibility for or contribute to systemic racism or sexism, and have no obligation to even acknowledge it. It is an extreme form of entitlement based on the perspectives of their own lives, people often do not see their own entitlement.

    So from the perspective of Adams and people in his generation that are white, have had some degree of financial success...... they have never had to look outside their narrow lens..... so when he reads or hears black people, women, minorities or social justice advocates complain or express disdain, it is foreign to them and they don't want to deal with it, they made their money to insulate themselves.... it is just easier to surround yourself with other like minded people, and to believe that their tax dollars etc. are not appreciated by the "others".

    To an extent he IS right if you look at history......... until the last generation, white people with money fled areas when a lot of black people moved in, they avoided areas that had a lot of black people. White flight is real, and is still happening at least through Generation X.... we will see if Millenials change as they age or not.

    Inequality and the belief that you are in some way responsible for the suffering of others isn't something very few people want to internally believe.
     
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    He exemplifies the privileged, elitist mindset of someone who is comfortably well-off but lacks the ability to recognize the advantages he enjoys and the disadvantages others face. His sense of superiority and entitlement perpetuate social and economic inequalities, and undermine efforts to promote greater equity and justice.
     
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    "Privilege" is a supremacist term only used by Black supremacists and reverse racism Nazis:D
     

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