Democrat John Ossoff dominates Republican stronghold District 6

This wasn't a nail biter. Metro Atlanta is swinging more to the left. Ossoff should have done better but he was not well qualified. DNC needs to stop insulting voters and put forth candidates who stand for something instead of giving good speeches.

Its nice of you to throw him some loose change, but the guy doesnt represent you...just the party.

 

See all the Trump fans have found their safe place...

 

Hillary has always been a bad candidate. Almost all of her political career has been by appointment and not by election. She rode Bills shirt tail and she is a DNC shill. She has survived only by being told what to do. Over the past couple decades, the DNC has a nasty habit of appointing their next leader instead of letting Democrats choose. The whole Super Delegate nonsense highlights this. They really should open up the field and let Democrats elect their nomination like the Republicans do, even if they get Trump.

 

I'm not talking about my personal preference, I'm talking about the overwhelming sentiment that Hillary was the favorite candidate for a very long time... let's not have selective memory here, she was clearly who everyone on the left was pulling for- if you don't remember, look it up. She became a bad candidate after she already started winning primaries. But yes, maybe they do away with the Super Delegate thing. When you lose, you have to accept blame and figure out what better to do next time.

Look, you don't have to have your personal dislike for someone cloud the truth. Clinton was elected to the U.S. Senate. She won the Democratic nomination. If you want to talk about coattails, let's talk Ted Kennedy, let's talk George W. Bush, etc. There's always going to be a little of that. But you're being disingenuous. It IS possible to support Republicans and concurrently not deceive yourself about the other side. President Trump won fair and square. See?

 

Um..that wasn't Metro Atlanta....it was the Suburbs. It is a RUBY RED district. He did just fine.

 

There is an common sense saying: you can't predict the future. Giving up and not trying is for guarantee loser.

 

I don't know GA06 area that well but seems to me it mirrors the suburbs like an area like Friendswood, Pearland, Alvin right?

This is a gut check for the Dem platform and their message for sure. Trump won via rural low educated, white working class AND by districts like GA06 "coming home" to the Republican Party despite not being thrilled with a bumbling idiot at the top of the ticket.

Seeing as though the world hasn't completely blown up yet, it's not shocking that GA06 voters might actually strengthen their stance on the GOP traditional platform and a traditional candidate.

So what will Dems be the party of? Will they try a white collar message? Focus on tech and economy that might apeal to the traditional GOP voter who votes Red because their parents always did?

Will they just wait for working class blue collar voters to figure out that Trump sold them out? Will they even figure that out since AHCA won't likely kick in (if passed) till 2020 at the earliest? Will the economy go to crap? I hope not.

This is a kick in the groin for sure and a realization that the Republicans are damn good at winning ejections because they know how to get their hands dirty, feel zero shame in doing it, and they keep their message simple and repeatable. They also create enemies well and in this case Ossoff = Pelosi. Why Handel didn't = Trump in Ossoffs message just shows the Dems don't get what wins elections .... nice guys finish last in politics and the Republicans are as nasty as they come.

 

Dems need to talk about education cost, health care cost, and how to make it in a world of globalization. Trump won with an anti-trade message. How do you give working class people a way to have a taste of the American dream? No one has that answer. Not the dem nor the repubs. There might not be an answer. But people need to be talking about this.

Also, find some candidates that are likable for god's sake.

 

Just as a reference to how Republicans campaign. Democrats and their orb around them (no matter how loose the connections are) have to be complete white knight angels while Republicans can grab women by the P@$$y and as long as they are pro life they can get away with it.

Something has to change about this notion. As long as Republicans can continue to get away with fighting dirty and the Dems globally (not just the candidates) have to live up to some unachievable moral standard, Republicans will continue to bulldoze democrats in elections and the court of public opinion because people are stupid and believe what they hear... and what they hear is Democrats kill babies, are all black poor people on welfare, who are professional violent protestors. While Republicans can do whatever they want because they go to church on Sunday and ask God for forgiveness and they work hard for themselves (apparently).

 

The district is wealthier, but Republicans have dominated the area for years.

 

what?

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atlanta_metropolitan_area

 

Looks like Trump have not done enough yet to wreck GOP, he needs to do much more before the 2018 election.

 

read this thread, good lessons for campaigns in general

 

It's not just the message, it's that Democrats/Liberals nowadays have higher standards for who they choose to vote for. I don't even want to hear an argument to this when the right elected Donald Trump.

Many democrats it seems want that perfect candidate. I've seen liberals jumping off the Elizabeth Warren ship only because of her vote on one or two things...or Cory Booker...or whoever you name it, a liberal will completely disregard a candidate because of one issue. Which is problematic as you can imagine, it seems to me that liberals today are looking for someone to save the country. Clinton had her flaws, but she was certainly left of center, yet I've talked to many liberals who were proud of just not voting for her because of this reason or that

Conservatives right now are in a state where they have hunkered down, they will support their team no matter what. We've seen posters here even whose views change as the party platform has changed. This uniformity is hard to beat.

I think though, where we are headed, the swing back will be hard. The Pendulum always swings from left to right, but if the GOP passes a health care bill that actually harms those in deep red states, nothing will save them from that. People are sure to put party over country, but never party over family or their own well-being. Now that the GOP are in full control, this can only be their fault. That's why it always swings, hard to run a country, hard to avoid mistakes, easier for the opposition party to point out those mistakes and constantly harp on them.

 

I will repeat again conservatives are much more hypocritical than liberals, everyone should remember this.

 

Stronger better candidates are always a good strategy. But there wasn't much wrong with this one... mud was thrown about where he lived, even though he lived a few miles away to make it easier for his fiance to attend school (ignoring that living in district isn't even a requirement). Mud was thrown that he would raise taxes despite his position against raising income taxes. Mud was thrown about "San Francisco support" as a way to blow the anti-gay dog whistle. Mud was thrown about outside money, ignoring the many millions of outside money raised for his opponent. Heck, mud was thrown about misquoted lines from Obama's book. And despicably offensive mud was thrown about lies regarding the congressional shooting. The mud continues to be effective, and whoever the Democrats present as a candidate will face all sorts of mud (truthful and as likely, untruthful).

 

So Republicans hold onto a blood red house seat by a 3%~ margin in a special election and yet this a referendum on Pelosi/DNC?