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Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Amiga, Jun 9, 2018.

  1. NewRoxFan

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    trump attempts to wrestle away the inhumane policy leadership mantle from the republican party...

    Trump says he 'certainly wouldn't sign' GOP's compromise immigration bill
    https://www.cnbc.com/2018/06/15/tru...nt-sign-gops-compromise-immigration-bill.html
     
  2. bobrek

    bobrek Politics belong in the D & D

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    I stopped reading at assylum
     
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    trump repeats the lie blaming Democrats for his own policy, and then tries to use this inhumane policy as blackmail to get his vanity wall. There has never been such a horrible person in the white house...

     
  4. NewRoxFan

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    ... and equally obscene, ag sessions abusing the Bible to support his execution of trump's policy:

     
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    Screw these human pieces of garbage. The blame rests entirely on these kids and their parents who willfully disregarded the sovereignty of our country and broke the law, and by the Democrats and “business-first” centrist Republican swamp creatures who refuse to do anything to protect our country and stop this invasion. Not only do they refuse to do anything, they stymie and neuter any attempts the Trump administration makes as addressing the issue. Witness Ryan’s omnibus and how giddy Democrats were at saying “Trump only got $1.6 billion plus we put restrictions in there which say it can only be used for fencing, not the wall.” They’re openly working against America’s best interests. They love their anchor babies.

    Now Paul Ryan is trying to screw America one last time on his way out with his turd of an amnesty bill. Good on Trump for coming out against it. He needs to be vigilant and get ahead of the issue because RINO Ryan will continue to try to paint him in a corner in a rush to legalize not only the DACA recipients, but anyone meeting the eligibility requirements for DACA but who didn’t sign up, as well as untold hundreds of thousands that will fraudulently hop on board as well.

    Illegal immigration is one of the most pressing issues this country is facing and has been for decades. There has been inaction on this for too long.

    If you make the willful decision to come here illegally, you are a piece of crap and should be treated in the harshest ways possible. Illegal entry into the US should be made a felony.

    American criminals don’t get to keep their family unit together when apprehended for a crime. Neither should foreign criminals. Don’t like the way you’re treated? Stay in your own goddamned country or come here legally.

    A nation without control of its borders is no nation at all.
     
  8. JuanValdez

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    I feel a little bad for HHS. I heard an interview with them this morning, and the woman was a little on the defensive. Their job is to take care of these kids. I don't blame HHS. But how successful can they be when (1) they aren't the parent, (2) they were already at capacity before this policy change and are now dealing with overcrowding, (3) and in addition to quickly increasing their physical space they have to quickly hire and on-board a lot more people? Apart from the trauma especially young children will endure just from the separation, bad things are going to happen in these child concentration camps. You can't scale up like this and maintain control.
     
  9. Amiga

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    I'm surprise you call them human.

    18 months old animal aren't worthy.
     
  10. NewRoxFan

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    This accurately sums up the trump position...
     
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    New polling numbers must have just come in... though it makes trump look even dumber...


     
  12. Amiga

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    Moral for decent folks working at these agencies must be rock bottom.

    And as with almost everything Trump, everyone in government working under him scrambles due to his nutzie directives.
     
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    Well, that is massively disheartening. Any amnesty without all 4 pillars addressed (and I’d throw in mandatory e-verify too) is going to result in a massive blue wave in the fall. It is completely anti-MAGA and Ryan’s final FU to Trump. I really believe the republicans want to be the minority party.

    Hopefully it will die in the Senate and Trump will make the issue of border control a key midterm issue. The public by and large wants strong enforcement. Stronger than these swamp creatures are willing to go for.
     
  14. NewRoxFan

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    The majority of Americans oppose the trump vanity wall:
    http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-brief...-americans-oppose-trumps-proposed-border-wall

    And support DACA:
    https://www.cnn.com/2018/02/28/politics/cnn-poll-immigration-daca-trump/index.html
     
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    I'm okay with the compromise bill. There's stuff in it I don't like, but the egregious stuff in the Goodlatte bill is taken out. And, I wasn't really expecting to get out of a Republican-monopoly federal government without having to accept immigration reform I didn't like. Giving up money for the wall, stupid but fine, giving up diversity lottery, fine. Probably the most unfortunate thing about it is that it'll take off some of the urgency to fix the problem without settling the status of 12 million undocumented immigrants. If they pass this bill, we'll still have them living and working here and we'll still have ICE picking them up and deporting them, breaking up families and communities. The urgent stuff will be addressed but the bulk of the problem just kicked down the road again.
     
  16. NewRoxFan

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    trump wh sent out an email trying to blame Democrats for trump's horrific and inhumane policy...

     
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    Yes! And make trump refuse to sign it. Then send it back to him again, and again.

     
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    You obviously don't know much about polling, or the 2016 election, so let me help... the polling as November 6 approached were actually pretty accurate. Many polls had already flipped to trump. So yes... polling is pretty accurate.
     
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    This is pretty much a moral gut-check moment. One of the things that made American slavery worse than all of the other forms of slavery was the way Americans intentionally separated families. Here we are now in 2018 separating families. That is not justice, and our administration took it on themselves to do this.

    1. Politicians need to step up and either take action or realize they are part of this evil. They have a chance to stop it right now.
    2. People who support politicians who don't take action are supporting this kind of injustice, and cruelty.

    We have been presented with a horrible, cruel, unjust action. It's time to take a stand one way or the other. This issue is that important.
     

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