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Clint Capela is sad

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by justtxyank, Jul 1, 2018.

  1. malakas

    malakas Member

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    Spencer Hawes signed a qualifying offer of $4,051,024 from the Sixers on 12/10/11. He re-signed with the Sixers for two years, $13.1MM on 7/12/12.
     
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    Hmmmm, I’ve been saying it and it’s looking that way... Is Tilman not willing to spend???
     
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    thanx for the info. That's much more reliable for sure.

    At least his agent isn't completely useless.
     
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    Okay? What did he honestly expect? Rockets have always operated this way. We certainly weren't going to give him max money and max years right off the bat, thats just a bad business decision.
     
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    Its really incredible that the Rockets always deal with the best agents that almost always max out their clients money while teams like the Lakers and Warriors get the discount prices from the agents of their players.
     
  6. justtxyank

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    The Warriors are seen as a lock for a championship and the Lakers have Lebron and are the Lakers. They are also loading up on veterans who've made money.

    We are see as a maybe contender and we are talking to guys who haven't racked up big earnings.
     
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    Odds are he is frustrated with the slim market, and I get that. Rox are letting the market dictate their offer, as a front office should, and he isn't getting the offers he expected. Signing for QO is just a tactic to get the Rox to raise their offer.
     
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    The thing about Capela's situation is that it's almost unprecedented. Most historic QO situations have happened with middle-tier guys or lower, in which the "gap" between the perceived market value and QO isn't nearly as extreme as it is in this case. (In this case, that also means more risk for the player in delaying his massive payday.) With players of Capela's value, it's almost always possible to find some team with cap room that's willing to take the gamble (particularly when the moratorium ends, and there's less of an opportunity cost), and all they need is one team. From there, whether they stay or go -- and most stay -- they get their money, and everyone moves on.

    This year is the exception. There's literally no one out there. No team has max availability, and the only two teams even remotely close (ATL/CHI) aren't really fits. I don't think it's necessarily a sign that the Rockets are being super cheap, or that the negotiations are overly contentious... it's just that, whereas the normal response for an RFA to an underwhelming offer is to go out and play the market, that's not really an option in this case. And that's unprecedented. There's almost always something out there.

    Playing the QO card is all that's left, and unless you say you're leaning to taking it, there's not much point. If Capela's agent leaks that they could take the QO but probably won't, what's the point? That puts all the leverage back in the Rockets' hands, because they'll know that's not what he wants to do and they can just wait him out and dare him to play the market. Saying he's leaning to the QO is the only play that's left.

    Ultimately, my guess is it drags out for a few weeks, but cooler heads prevail because neither side wants the QO outcome. Will just take a deadline to spur action.
     
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    Sad off season. No Ariza, no Luc, no Clint long term

    BUT WE GOT MCW
     
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    One, the Rockets can offer more MLE money if they operate under the apron. So they can gain more money to spend. Obviously this depends on some other moves they may make but Capela making $15-20mil less than expected would help.

    Two, the Rockets can still offer Capela the most money next year. Would Capela spite the Rockets and take less money elsewhere while winning less? Perhaps. But if he cares about money, and he clearly does, then he’d stay next year.
     
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    And we got cp3 back.

    Lose him and it looks much much worse.
     
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    It will be fascinating to eventually discover what was offered by Houston that's led to this stalemate. I understand that it's Morey's job to get this number down but it sounds like the offer was almost insulting considering the work Clint's out in and his importance to the team.

    The QO is almost certainly a last ditch hand being played, but right now we risk not locking him up long term and pissing him off to the point where he'll sign with teams with space in the market for a big, like LA. We have the PERFECT big for this team who is still improving. It's madness to me.

    Morey already tried to stash him in his rookie season if I'm not mistaken, now there's a chance he's gone and low-balled him. I'm worried. Handwringing has commenced!
     
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    Learn to make a free throw so you aren't an automatic turnover when hacked. Learn to shoot a jump shot so the opponent can't put a small guy on you and just front you. Learn to push and shove smaller guys out of the paint so they can't sit there waiting for Harden and CP3 to drive. Intimidate guards when they drive on you by fouling hard with a purpose. Curry should be afraid to drive in to a beast like Capela but there isn't a mean streak there. We don't need some gentle giant ****.

    Those are the things he needs to learn. Then the offers will be pouring in.

    As of now he is a good clean defender who can dunk if harden makes a perfect pass to him. Offers are going to reflect that because we are the only team with Harden.
     
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    Morey is doing the right thing, Capela should use this as motivation. If he brings his game to another level, he will be paid and Rockets can pay him the most.
     
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    I am not sure if capela is going to get that much more next season..
     
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    He could if he improves on the things we are mentioning above. He has improved over the years but we need more. I see the potential but he has to bring it! Come out of that shell.
     
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    What about Vucavik from Orlando? He makes 12 m for the next 2 yrs. Maybe just trade for him and see if you can get better production because he's with better players in Houston. Plus he's a better offensive player than CC. That switching stuff is trendy, but if your big is beating, they're gonna stay true to those screens. Or even short term Marc Gasol. On pnr, gsw ain't switching that and let Gasol post guys 5 ft from the rim.
     
  18. jwayne

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    It’s not that, it’s that the Rockets have always (at least under Morey) allowed all RFAs to go out and get an offer sheet. It’s a matter of the Rockets not negotiating against themselves. Let the market set itself for said player.
     
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    If thats the case his agent needs to step up and actually look for offers, ive only heard one report about him doing so...
     
  20. RocketsFido

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    Capela just wants to get paid more than Anderson who did nothing on the bench while he was on the court busting his ass.
     
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