Cherokee Nation tells Warren DNA test ‘useless to determine tribal citizenship’

Warren is 70 years old and isn't even well liked within her party. That's the bigger issue of concern for me.

I'll pick her over a phony cutout like Corey Booker but her East Coast style and the way she makes populist causes way too wonky probably won't swing well with the folksy flyover types who want "handouts but not handouts" or at least some form of Relief only because "they earned it" unlike other ungrateful groups...

 

Thread should've ended with @Nook's reply. With the Republicans in control, I can't say this fake anger isn't working for one side...

 

Neither one can get the Reagan Democrats. Obama could hilary couldn't trump could

Thats the voter both party needs to win presidential elections. This isnt rocket science.


Its the same every freakin election. In the case of gwb vs Edwards it wasn't about gwb getting that voter as much as Edwards not being able to

 

Elizabeth Warren actually has less Native American DNA than the average white person with European ancestry.

The New York Times - The researchers found that European-Americans had genomes that were on average 98.6 percent European, .19 percent African, and .18 Native American.

 

#Believe women/mothers.

 

That matters to you because...?

 

What's hilarious is that we've exposed people who are actually claiming that Trump is more honest than Obama, Warren, and other Democrats. That is so far off the charts, it's laughable.

I thought even his most ardent supporters were aware and admitting that it's documented the guy lies and is dishonest more than any President in the modern era. This is fascinating stuff.

 

like ...

Cherokee Nation tells Warren DNA test ‘useless to determine tribal citizenship’

Oh wait that is the right's desperately stupid message.

 

#BelievePocahontas

Let's see ...

Trump makes a blatant racist remark, calling someone Pocahontas. No dog whistles here.
Trump promises multiple times that he pay Pocahontas one million large if she can prove that she really is Pocahontas and then reneges.

We can conclude that Trump is a overt racist, a lier and someone's word that can not be trusted. Yet somehow this is a successful political attack against a potential 2020 opponent.

 

It was a funny joke make fun of Warren's stupid claim


Everyone can relate to Pocahontas is.

Its not a racial issue its a credibility issue.

 

Are trying to say reducing Native Americans down to a Pocahontas stereotype isn't racist?

 

He isn't making fun of Pocahontas or native Americans
.
If you said you couldsave people's lives and i called you Jesus i wouldn't be making fun of Jesus

If you called yourself a revolutionary and i called you paul revere i would be making fun of you not paul revere

He is making fun of Warren any idiot can see that

 

So Warren trying to better herself using a fake minority status is okay? Trump calling her out for it is racist? Forgive me for my inability to perform the extreme mental gymnastics it takes to come to these conclusions.

Even if Warren did not know she had basically zero native American in her and was simply going by what her parents told her, it is utterly ridiculous for her to claim to be Native American based on her looks. It would be like me finding out I had an African American ancestor way back when and using that to take advantage of an affirmative action program for African Americans even though I am about as white as possible. The left is seriously reaching here to defend her actions.

 

If you don't get it, you don't get it. Oh well.

 

This whole story is interesting to me, because I have a similar personal story. I grew up my whole life hearing from my mom who grew up her life believing she had grandparents on both sides of her family that were Cherokee. It was my understanding that I was almost entirely Irish except for what bit of Cherokee ancestry I had.

I did the 23 & Me test...overwhelmingly British/Irish...scattered other Western European ancestry...no surprise. What was surprising....0% Native American. Flat zero...goose egg. In it's place was .5% Sub-Saharan African. They've since refined that result to tell me I'm .5% Broadly Congolese & Southern East African.

The more I researched on this, the more I found it was quite common to gloss over African ancestry in the southern United States by claiming Cherokee ancestry.

So when I told people before that test I was Cherokee, I wasn't lying. I was telling them what my mom and told me and what had been told to her. Having said that, it wasn't accurate either. But I will say that believing that from a very early age made me study more about Native Americans and sympathize more with the crap they were dealt with.

The only caveat to all this is I still have .5% listed as "Unassigned." The notation under that says, "there is a wide range of human diversity out there, and sometimes our algorithm can't pinpoint a region of your DNA to a specific population. Bear with us as our data and resources continue to expand. We expect the amount of unassigned ancestry our customers see to decrease." But regardless, given our close in time my mom believed she had people in her family who fully identified as Cherokee, it would need to be greater than .5% now unassigned for those stories to have been true.

 

YOU don't get it

Native Americans don't consider it racist. They side with Trump on the issue so who gives a damn that you think its racist.

Trump tells a bunch stupid non funny jokes. He knocked this out the park.

Typical liberal arrogance

Native Americans dont find it offensive but you think they should

Good lord

 

The thing she didn't take advantage of any programs. She didn't use a claim of being a Native American to get a job, a promotion, etc. Again, you don't have any ground to stand on when criticizing the honesty of another politician. The one that you support is leaps and bounds beyond Warren or anyone else in the political game.

Trump wasn't called a racist for saying Warren was dishonest. He was a racist for using the Native American stereotype of Pocohantus in a derisive name calling, lack of civility, rant and repeating it over and over.

 

Your assumption that her white skin would mean little to no Native American ancestry is completely misplaced and unfounded.

 

Trying to figure out the purpose of all of this
Dunno why Warren mention the isht in the first place
I figured she took the rest but did not count on the blowback . . .. aka a typical tone deaf Democrat

BTW - Did she ever claim citizenship?

Rocket River

 

No that is wrong. There are absolutely Native Americans who consider it incredibly racist. They don't side with Trump on using the term Pocohantus.

https://www.voanews.com/a/native-am...e-over-trump-pocahontas-comments/4140139.html
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...avajo-nation-criticism-response-a8080676.html
https://turnto10.com/news/local/ri-native-american-activist-appalled-by-trumps-pocahontas-comment
https://www.cnn.com/2017/11/29/opinions/trump-native-americans-moya-smith-opinion/index.html
http://www.kunc.org/post/indigenous-lawmaker-compares-trumps-pocahontas-remark-racial-slur#stream/0

https://www.axios.com/native-americ...204-a5c1b4ca-9c02-4005-a3e4-97c536e55ea0.html
https://missoulian.com/opinion/colu...cle_58317b2a-3c98-56e3-bbe1-2a6f5b997c90.html
http://www.wbur.org/hereandnow/2017/11/28/trump-pocahontas-native-american-code-talkers
https://www.newsweek.com/trump-poca...ong-history-insulting-native-americans-724204
http://theweek.com/speedreads/739898/native-american-groups-denounce-trumps-pocahontas-comment
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/...-trump-pocahontas-comment-20171128-story.html
https://www.azcentral.com/story/new...-dawnafe-whitesinger-violet-duncan/913652001/
https://www.12news.com/article/news...ral-insensitivity-is-unfortunate/75-494988186
http://mustreadalaska.com/afn-objects-trumps-usage-pocahontas/

Would you like to try again with your claim that Native Americans don't consider it racist? Those are only a sampling of stories about the Native American reaction to Trump's racism towards Native Americans.