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CBS News: Romney Camp "shellshocked" by loss cuz they were unskewing polls

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Carl Herrera, Nov 8, 2012.

  1. Carl Herrera

    Carl Herrera Contributing Member

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    Apparently we were too tough on the one clown at unskewedpolls.com. He's not the only one unskewing polls. Highly paid professionals at Romney's $1,000,000,000 operation (and probably at Rove's camp) were "shellshocked" by the loss because they were relying on "unskewed" numbers that they thought would better reflect the makeup of the electorate than actual polls do and made strategic decisions based on their unskewed numbers.

    :)

    http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-250_162-57547239/adviser-romney-shellshocked-by-loss/?tag=socsh


     
  2. Deckard

    Deckard Blade Runner
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    So you're saying Romeny was skewed and he didn't know it?
     
  3. heypartner

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    fify.
     
  4. A_3PO

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    I guess a good definition of shellshocked is living in a delusion, then being smacked in the chops by reality on election day.

    If Republicans stop being delusional I might start voting for them.
     
  5. mc mark

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    The true silent majority came out.
     
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    I was going for something that sounded like "screwed," HeyPee. ;-)-
     
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  8. mc mark

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    Maybe, just maybe the GOP will start to wake up to arithmetic.
     
  9. CometsWin

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    Jopat faints
     
  10. redlawn

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    There was a hurricane at the Republican convention. There was a hurricane right before the election. Maybe God is trying to send Karl Rove a message?
     
  11. mc mark

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    from the article

    because it needs repeating

    They made three key miscalculations, in part because this race bucked historical trends:

    1. They misread turnout. They expected it to be between 2004 and 2008 levels, with a plus-2 or plus-3 Democratic electorate, instead of plus-7 as it was in 2008. Their assumptions were wrong on both sides: The president's base turned out and Romney's did not. More African-Americans voted in Ohio, Virginia, North Carolina and Florida than in 2008. And fewer Republicans did: Romney got just over 2 million fewer votes than John McCain.

    2. Independents. State polls showed Romney winning big among independents. Historically, any candidate polling that well among independents wins. But as it turned out, many of those independents were former Republicans who now self-identify as independents. The state polls weren't oversampling Democrats and undersampling Republicans - there just weren't as many Republicans this time because they were calling themselves independents.

    3. Undecided voters. The perception is they always break for the challenger, since people know the incumbent and would have decided already if they were backing him. Romney was counting on that trend to continue. Instead, exit polls show Mr. Obama won among people who made up their minds on Election Day and in the few days before the election. So maybe Romney, after running for six years, was in the same position as the incumbent.
     
  12. Dairy Ashford

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    I'm sorry but a follow-up story about polling is just a few too degrees from relevant. We have got to stop looking for crap to throw at the other side.
     
  13. FranchiseBlade

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    I think this is very relevant when analyzing what happened, because the Republicans, like they do with issues, are ignoring, science, math, History, etc. It's one of many symptoms but it's definitely relevant.
     
  14. meh

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    What I find shocking is that Republicans are becoming Independents, and these people don't know about it!? Good lord, you'd think the party would have kept up with these sort of stats, the number of defections and such, over the years as a way to keep track of Republican/Democrat overall numbers.

    Besides, if every poll's RANDOM sampling comes out +Democrats, you'd think they'd see something may be fishy. That perhaps their assumptions may be incorrect. While talking heads on Fox News spew BS all they want, surely the number crunchers on the inside aren't swayed by it, right?
     
  15. Buck Turgidson

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    Science!

    <iframe width="420" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/2IlHgbOWj4o" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>
     
  16. jocar

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    Mc Mark meet Mc Hammer
    <iframe width="420" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/1q2TA2zPtac" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

    (sorry again, Buck encouraged me to post another)lol
     
  17. mc mark

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  18. Rashmon

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    Exactly.

    The roaring silence...
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  19. Carl Herrera

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    Is it just me or is McMark the least substantial poster here? You're a dem. Got it. Dems aren't offensive, your inability to generate original thought is.
     
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