Brilliant: Trump says EPA to issue notice to San Francisco on homeless

Trump and Putin - 2 guys that the good lord should Smite ASAP for the good of humanity.

DD

 

This thread is old because it has the T word and it triggers people
But he acknowledged the problem

 

We were in SF about 5 years ago and yes they do have a section downtown that has a lot of attics and drug paraphernalia on the ground... We actually had to go thru it from the airport to our hotel.. Our driver did warn us to avoid that area....

But on another note, once we got thru that SF was a nice place and we had a great time... The only dirty area was within that 2 block area and amazingly the attics stay in that area and don't cross to the other side...

T_Man

 

sounds like hamsterdam. bunny colvin in charge over there?

 

Was there during the pandemic , it was wayyyyy different. But at least the traffic got better. Kinda nuts that they lock up the toothpaste and there’s 10 less Walgreens and cvs.

you stay near golden gate park ?

 

The video was fair. It basically only concentrated on the negatives of San Francisco (it actually left some out such as the incredible cost to visit). The reality is that homelessness, drug use and petty crime are really bad in San Francisco.

 

I bring up homelessness often on these boards. @rocketsjudoka does as well.

Honestly, pointing to a city and saying they have a lot of homeless doesn't really do much.

Why are there so many homeless people in places like LA and San Francisco?

What has California and these cities done to address the issue?

What have other cities done?

It is a lot more complicated than most people think.

 

can we just build an underground cavern were they can live?

 

My bad.
You and @AroundTheWorld keep it real.

I know Austin banned camping and other things.
For San Francisco, the yellow productions travel dude hit it on the spot.
The shoplifting rule is real, plus the cops don’t arrest drug dealers. I had a buddy back in the day tell me that the drug scene was great in SF in the early 2000s. He ended up overdosing there and was in coma for weeks. That dude is not the same guy anymore.

 

In San Francisco you have two separate issues that get connected together and while there is some cross over, they are not the same.

As for the homeless population in San Francisco, I don't blame the city for causing them to be homeless. Many of them are not from San Francisco, they come from all over the country because of the weather and because there are resources in San Francisco that are not available in other places. What I suspect will eventually happen is what other cities have done, they will have the police harass them and attempt to force them out. Austin has done this because there were too many.

If the "left" is guilty of anything in San Francisco, it is preventing the building of more housing and more affordable housing. Home owners are VERY powerful in San Francisco and has successfully put in a lot of restrictions to limit new building.

The "Right" and their obsession with San Francisco is weird...... it is still one of the very most desirable places on the planet to live, you would think they would target another area.

 

Clean Air (remember smog and acid rain?)
Clean Water
Expanding health care coverage and reducing health care-related bankruptcies
TARP Auto Bailout
TARP Regular Bailout (this one overlapped with end of Bush admin) - you know, just preventing a global depression and economic collapse
Fin-Reg redesigning the banking system stability
Anti-Poverty programs (poverty is the lowest in modern history)
Anti-Hunger programs (starvation is the lowest in modern history)
Repeated deficit reduction (only to be repeatedly undone by the GOP)

The list goes on and on.

 

after you have named one public policy agenda endorsed and implemented by Repubs that was cost effective

i can name some failures by the Repubs

• W and the NeonCons giving permanent tax cuts and then started 2 needless wars under false pretenses
  • wiping out the surpluses he had inherited from Clinton, and then proceeded to generated the larges budget deficit than all his predecessors (combined) had generated
  • leading to the bankruptcy of the US financial industry,
• Putin's useful idiot, the Orange Hair, starting a trade war, not just against china, but also US allies
  • leading to global supply chain bottlenecks, paving the way for a global inflation

 

The shop lifting rule is definitely real and drugs are readily available.

I understand why they changed the rule, they were arresting and releasing a lot of petty offenders - but the rule change has brought a lot of problems.

To be clear, I don't agree with ever law in San Francisco.... it has flaws, homeowners and HOA's have entirely too much power, there are some on the extreme left that have odd fascinations like ending male circumcision .....and If I were raising kids in San Francisco I would REALLY worry about them getting involved in the drug culture....... and there are a lot of obviously homeless that largely can do whatever they want.

 

Nobody has kids there . Once they do they move to the burbs or Texas or Florida.
That’s not a secret, the d&d should talk to realtors.
Or drive and look at the license plates at open houses

plus the lottery school system made it worse.
Instead of equality , you get pissed off parents sending their kids to private school cause they can not got to the school across the street

 

Yeah, if you live in San Francisco you better have money.

 

Tenderloin?

Some parts of the Civic Center are bad. The extreme density of the city makes it have good and bad spots every other block.

It also normalizes people to ignore the homeless even when they **** or dump bodily fluids on the streets.

There are many homeless that try to stay invisible, whether out of shame, despair or fear. It's just the mentally ill or violent get all the attention.

Like nook mentioned, California has been a homeless destination because of the weather and fairly liberal policies towards them.

The other problem is affordable housing that makes a city like SF impossible to accomplish without building ugly ass apartment complexes like China. Property rights, geography and red tape also stop any progress on that. They hated the millennium tower and there's some engineering problems starting to surface.

Just think of downtown Austin mostly surrounded by water with nowhere else to expand, then speed that up twenty years.