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Board appointed by Perry recommends Texas Medicaid expansion

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by mc mark, Nov 13, 2014.

  1. mc mark

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    A board of healthcare experts appointed by Gov. Rick Perry (R) and authorized by the state legislature is recommending that the state expand Medicaid under Obamacare, thereby extending coverage to more than 1 million uninsured Texans. The 15-member Texas Institute of Health Care Quality and Efficiency board has recommended that the state's health commissioner be given the authority to negotiate with the federal government on an expansion scheme.

    Imagine that
     
  2. g1184

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    Finally, some common sense solutions.
     
  3. ryan_98

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    wonder if this part can somehow be challenged in court. i don't see how, but it seems like regardless of what even their own approved board might recommend, this legislature isn't going to pass anything that would remotely expand medicaid.

    from the link
     
  4. Invisible Fan

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    Doesn't matter as long as you campaign against Obamacare and promise to fight it.

    Voters vote their conscience.

    Bless their hearts.
     
  5. Cohete Rojo

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    Pretty soon, the entire federal governments budget will be healthcare, social security, and defense.
     
  6. Dairy Ashford

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    Aren't we already dropping a half-tril per annum on the credit card going on 7 years now? I'm guessing the part that our taxes actually cover already is.
     
  7. Dubious

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    Perry/Abbott and gang will ignore the study as their anti-government ideology blinds them to the needless suffering of a million Texans.

    I am sure they can pay some "healthcare speicalists" to come up with a contrary study.

    Infuriating.
     
  9. SamFisher

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    Meanwhile, back in reality:

    According to a report published on Tuesday by the Congressional Budget Office, Medicare is now expected to make up 4.6 percent of G.D.P. in 25 years, down from 4.9 percent in last year’s estimate. That’s a big enough difference that it buys the Medicare trust fund, which pays for hospital care for senior citizens and the disabled, about six more years of solvency in the budget office’s estimate compared with last year.
     
  10. Rocketman1981

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    Time for more Doctor/Dentist crony capitalists.

    Go to any bad part of town and its littered with dentists and clinics now billing Medicaid for $1200 for every kid that walks in for dentistry.

    When the Government runs these programs, they have such goofy simple holes that companies exploit, whether it was companies taking advantage of Federal Housing mandates to Fannie/Freddie or whether its healthcare lobbying for limited supply of providers and increased demand through government controlled programs expansion, it costs the American Consumer a lot of money.

    These quasi regulated systems are so goofy that they may as well be 100% run by the government as the healthcare profiteers squeezing Americans.

    The only morality in commerce of any sort is bringing down prices to consumers or finding ways to have them keep more of the hard earned money they make. This allows them to save, pay off debt, get an education or field and then one day start a small business which is the lifeblood of opportunity and is what makes this country great.
     
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    It is interesting that you understand things but then revert to simplistic hoping for deliverance from the magic of the market.

    People will pay whatever they have to keep their health so market forces just won't save you in healthcare.
     
  12. Jeffster

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    Is that a serious question? Like really?

    Partisanship aside, as an educated citizen I want basic protections and assurances from my government and am willing to provide a modest amount of taxation to provide for those basics. I want a low tax rate and for capitalists to be able to succeed and have healthy returns on their investments, which in turn can benefit me by offering better opportunity and good cheap quality products.

    That basic societal goal is so far out of whack due to the corrupting power of money it is practically broken. The taxing burden is now disproportional to the flow of money and has a dramatic affect of the quality of the lives of its citizens.

    An increase in corporate taxation is the logical step in rebalancing our economic system. It really isn't in question anymore, it is a fight against corruption at this point.
     
  14. Rocket River

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    Are we spend 1/3 on each?

    Rocket River
     
  15. Rocket River

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    Healthy return on investment
    trumps just about everything
    Health of Employees, Environment, Morality, Safety, etc

    Rocket River
     
  16. Jeffster

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    Yes, it's a serious question and none of what you posted here answers the question.
     
  17. Dairy Ashford

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    Imagine if we'd done that in the twenties.
     
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    I'll help you then since you seem to either generally not understand or are purposefully being dense.

    We are operating at pretty heavy deficit year after year and spending money on things that generally don't help the average tax payer, such as military spending, instead of where it is really needed in healthcare, education and infrastructure, ie the things that this country really needs.

    The military spending is nothing more than corporate welfare in either securing resources or straight funneling the money out through external contracting. We have been led to believe that any corporate taxation or regulation is stifling corporate growth and increasing the burden of taxation would halt further investment and thus job growth. As such, we are put into positions to deal with a trillion dollar healthcare problem, which seemingly can't be solved, without more resources. Under this premise, we can, as citizens, accept our limitations and turn to creativity to try and solve this problem, while understanding the additional corporate taxation just can't be levied.

    The revelation that corporations have amassed an extraordinary amount of residual income and wealth, with no additional investment shows that position about taxation stifling growth is in fact false, one can easily see that amount of profit as obscene.

    It's really not that difficult of a concept, but I'm always here to help those who don't understand.
     
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    Wouldn't that lead to more corporate inversions? What do you do then?
     
  20. Dubious

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    1. that the companies that make it exploit the resources and protections of the United States while avoiding paying their share of the expenses.

    2. that the companies that make it use those profits to buy the representation that should defend and protect The People of the United States and subvert it to their own ends in a growing snowball of oligarchy.

    3. that those oligarchies are by definition devoid of humanistic interests promoting profit over the elevation of the human condition, even to the detriment of the human condition

    4. and allows the capitalistic goal of separating people into segregated immobile economic classes, the very few haves and the very may have-nots with economic and political dominance
     

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