Bill Maher / Joe Rogan: the Hunger for Common Sense:has Bernie and Russell brand on show

This was posted in another thread but is extremely relevant here. I wonder what @tinman and @AroundTheWorld think of this one.

Have to tag them since they won't engage in a thread unless it is bashing the evil woke liberals that want them to use pronouns for trans people or dare sell a Gay Superman comic. Very important issues!

Ignore the crazy Republicans trying to overturn elections, they made SUPERMAN GAY!

 

It's funny/sad, and it's true (the Maher clip about Republicans). I mean, for instance this Marjorie lady - it's a sad state of affairs if that woman is in the position she is in. Maher is smug as hell, but I mostly agree with him on almost everything.

 

LGBTQX leader calls for Bill Maher cancellation

https://www.advocate.com/commentary/2022/5/25/bill-maher-has-gone-too-far-anti-lgbtq-comments

Bill Maher Has Gone Too Far With Anti-LGBTQ+ Comments
David Kilmnick of the LGBT Network says Maher's HBO show, Real Time With Bill Maher, should be canceled after the remarks.
BY DAVID KILMNICK
MAY 25 2022 5:09 PM EDT

As someone who has spent over three decades fighting for the rights of our LGBTQ+ communities, particularly safe spaces for our youth, I have seen and been part of many forward changes. I lead the LGBT Network, which held the first LGBTQ+ youth prom in America’s suburbs, started the first recognized Parent-Teacher Association in the nation to focus on LGBTQ+ youth, and opened America’s first LGBTQ+ senior affordable housing in suburbia. We have helped to start hundreds of gay-straight alliance clubs in our schools and have been a part of the many struggles, rallies, and fight for full equality and equity. After watching the most recent episode of HBO’s Real Time With Bill Maher, it feels like 1993 all over again, although this time it’s different and even more frightening.

On last Friday’s Real Time With Bill Maher, Maher said the number of youth identifying as LGBTQ+ is rising because it's “trendy,” while he spewed other harmful, homophobic and transphobic rhetoric. Maher continued his vitriolic commentary by taking several more potshots at LGBTQ+ youth, including claims that society was “experimenting” on children through the use of puberty blockers and genital surgery as a means to perpetuate culture wars. Maher correlated his comments on “trendiness” with statistics on LGBTQ+ youth in California versus other states, like Ohio, claiming that “either Ohio is shaming them or California is creating them.”

Back in 1993, I would chalk this up to ignorance and truly believed education would help folks to critically think and change, and it did. But today is different, and the alarm bell is ringing — loud! The onslaught of attacks legislatively and in the media against our community goes well beyond ignorance; it is hateful, purposeful, and intentional. We need to wake up and be smart in our fight, as all our LGBTQ+ youth need us now more than ever. We need to speak up and hold everyone accountable, even those who purport to be “liberal and progressive.” That’s why I am calling for the LGBTQ+ community and supporters of LGBTQ+ youth to boycott HBO until Real Time With Bill Maher is removed from its platform. Maher has gone too far.

Now, I am not one for getting caught up in the extreme left and right’s battle on “cancel culture,” and I know many of us, including myself, will suffer from not being able to watch Jean Smart in Hacks. But the LGBTQ+ youth are the ones who are really suffering from being told that it is a trend to say you are LGBTQ+, while at the same time being shoved and kicked in school hallways, and HBO must take immediate action and remove Bill Maher and simultaneously take action to let every LGBTQ+ youth know they are loved.

The consequences of not doing anything can be deadly. Nearly half of LGBTQ+ youth seriously considered suicide in the past year, and it’s comments ones Maher’s thar give license to others to dehumanize and torment LGBTQ+ youth. Maher’s words are also nothing more than a dog whistle for those who seek to roll back the rights of the LGBTQ+ community which we are seeing happen throughout our nation. The trend is not willy-nilly identification as being LGBTQ+; it is the alarming measures being passed to deny LGBTQ+ people’s existence and rights. Whether it’s Florida’s “don’t say gay” law or the dozens of states that are banning trans athletes and rights, this is unfortunately the real trend we should be talking about and organizing around to change.

Our LGBTQ+ youth are perfect just the way they are — they need no fixing. They need supportive spaces and policies to be completely free and authentic and to achieve their full potential. What they don’t need are the rants on a platform like Bill Maher’s show, which pose the greatest risk to LGBTQ+ youth’s safety and well-being. Call on HBO now to take immediate action and remove Real Time from its lineup. Maher has simply gone too far. Our actions and voices will send a loud message that these types of careless and negligent behavior and speech will not be tolerated, and in doing so we can instead focus on the work of making sure that not one more kid contemplates taking their life simply for being who they are. It’s the least we could do as we get ready to celebrate Pride.

David Kilmnick is the founder and president of the LGBT Network, one of the largest LGBTQ+ advocacy groups in the U.S., which is based in New York City and Long Island, N.Y. The LGBT Network operates four LGBT community centers throughout the expansive Long Island and Queens region to reach and serve as many LGBTQ+ people and their families as possible.

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Bill Maher is wrong but obviously should not be canceled. What should happen is that Bill Maher should invite David Kilmnick onto the show and debate why this isn't trendy and talk about the actual evidence of what is and what is not happening.

 

The sad truth is that common sense isn’t that common .

In my experience people have gotten less individualistic with their views and opinions and it’s just easier to identify with a certain group or echo someone else’s statements ... of course , most of the time people echo , they don’t admit it’s an echo .

Thank goodness Rogan and Maher are a bit popular . But that popularity doesn’t necessarily come from being identified as “common sense” . I’d wager a decent part of rogan and mahers fan base comes from which side they took on “cancel culture”

I believe they are right on that front .

I’ve also seen a lot of gop politicians fight against cancel culture yet try to censor their own opposition.

my common sense would state all Americans should stop voting for democrats and republicans. Please . Give independents a chance . If we had common sense we could stand up for ourselves and get rid of political parties .

 

Is he referring to this commentary:?


Rocket River

 

This was one of his better bits.

 

More like the Ross Shafer and Tom Snyder

 

Give me a shot of that joe rogan common sense straight into the veins, it has electrolytes

 

Obviously this guy is wrong to call for Bill Maher to be canceled. Intolerance of perspective isn't going to get us anywhere.

I don't think Bill Maher is completely accurate here. Sweden didn't ban puberty blockers - one institute said they would not use them anymore and the gov't recommend against their use except in certain cases. In other words, they should be given out more judiciously.

Saying its trendy to be transgender is a bit ludicrous though. No one wants to be transgender - its a traumatic thing to realize you are in the wrong body. And the level of happiness that kids who don't have to face going through puberty of a gender they can't identify themselves as is real. I don't think Bill Maher is saying otherwise, but saying it's "trendy" does give weapons to the other side to abuse and attack legitimate transgender individuals.

I agree with him that people should look at what's going on here though and figure out if there is an issue with kids being misidentified as transgender. Apparently the rate of that is extremely low but it should still definitely be looked at.

I think what is happening is that a lot of people who are gay are actually transgender and now that there is more acceptance of being transgender in communities, more people are coming out to being transgender who would otherwise identify as gay. But that's just a guess.

 

The hunger is unquenchable

 

Joe Rogan and Bill Maher are aging into Facebook moms. The transition is very slow and subtle but look hard enough you'll see that Facebook mom ethos deep inside.

 

Just to calm down the lefties here who think Bill's gone too far off the farm.

 

He is REALLY a downer and has little to no hope it seems

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