No melt down so that is better than many expected from old Joe so that is enough for the Democratic , and Media Establishment as well as the Super Pacs he denied receiving backing from. Joe lied frequently about his record, but the media, the DNC, the Dem Establishment and Obama who cut the deals to get rid of Mayor Pete and Klobuchar do not care and most of his supporters are not informed enough to realize the lies , so it is irrelevant for the nomination probably. The DNC can and do make up rules as they go so, they may declare this the last debate. They will continue with the frequent calls for Sanders to withdraw, though at this stage he is closer than Obama was against HIllary. Things will not be so nice with the GOP and Trump. They have Fox Media to propagandize against CNN and MSNBC in support of Trump. Trump will go after old Joe's declining faculties, his frequent lies about social security, bankruptcy bill, his support for the Iraq War, and the dirty but probably legal influence peddling on the Biden name by his son and brother. This would normally be enough for Trump to win, but the whole Coronavirus thing and the likely stock market collapse will probably sink Trump nonetheless. The best thing about the debate is that Joe had to lie over and over and pretend that he supported much of Bernie and the progressive agenda before the start of this campaign or the last few months.
*yawn* the delusion is strong with this one. There’s a big tent for Bernie supporters but if you’re one of those that wants to write Bernie in and help re-elect Trump, you ought to pack your tin foil hat and take a vacation to distract yourself from the horrors of the inevitable Biden presidency. I know it sucks when your guy doesn’t win, but progressive change is coming before your eyes and you’re probably 18 years old so it’s harder to realize. I’ll cut you some slack there
I am an old guy like Deckard who has had the good luck to live through the golden age of America's middle class before Reagan, the Bushes and Trump with the help of Democrats like Biden destroyed the middle class. Not as content and still care about people who have problems I do not have with respect to student loans, healthcare, childcare, a living wage, etc. Not as patient either. Here is Biden in 1989 bragging about being one of the most conservative Senate Democrats before his lies wrt to his record on social security cuts, medicare cuts, the Iraq War, superpac support. https://web.archive.org/web/2003122...ov/~biden/press/release/98/03/2000A26318.html FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE March 6, 1998 Biden Ranks as One of Senate's Most Conservative Democrats WASHINGTON, DC -- U.S. Senator Joseph R. Biden, Jr. ranks as one of the top five most conservative Democrats, according to a detailed national analysis. National Journal examined 39 key votes in 1997 on economic, social and foreign policy issues to determine the rankings. ....
Those may be the two things Trump hammers him on, but Biden can just come back over the top on both issues. There are plenty of instances that can be highlighted were Trump shows dementia-like symptoms. And going after Joe in regards to his son profiting off his VP run kind of opens up Biden being able to attack Trump's kids for profiting substantially off his presidential run. That's the thing about Biden, no matter what the Republicans want to go after him for, Trump has done everything to a much worse degree and then some. Now, hopefully, the Dems have counterattacks every time a negative attack goes against Joe to highlight the difference.
And to the people who keep on asking us "why does it matter what Biden said 20 years ago", ironically he answers it in a very succinct manner here on why it matters: He basically explains exactly why people trust Bernie over Hillary and Biden. Gloria Borger: And they Question Hillary's authenticity (on wealth concentration and income inequality)? Biden: Well I think they question everybody who hasn't been talking about it all along. If you want a reason why voting records matter and why being consistent matter, Biden tells you himself. If the only time you being up these systemic issues is during campaign season, people don't trust you to carry through on your campaign ideals or at the very least fight for those ideals.
...and Warren was a Republican. We already know these things, it's not news. I'll back Biden if/when he wins and I hope you will as well.
Sure. He was explaining why he thought people liked Bernie over Hillary. But now, it turns out people like Biden a lot more than Bernie. So either he was wrong, or people don't have the same trust issues with Biden, or they really just decided they no longer like/trust Bernie now.
Those who consume only CNN, MSNBC and the standard right to Hillary liberal type media do indeed trust Biden. Recent elections show that those who consume Fox are Trumpsters and those who consume MSNBC or equivalent back the Clinton -Biden Dems who together with the Reagan-Bush crowd have over the last 40 years destroyed the middle class and brought us Trump.
This is why Bernie needs to drop out. His more idiotic online supporters are not going to pivot to policy like maybe AOC or others who are smart about this, they are just going to bring us this poinltess bullshit. The primary is over like the NBA season. There's bigger things at issue now. Like how me move forward in a post-Trump, hopefully post-COVID19 world.
So people who consume left or right media support Biden or Trump. Leaving people who don't consume media as the supporters of Bernie? In other words, the people who don't even attempt to educate themselves?
If the SS cut was the only thing then I would agree. But have you already forgotten about him being mean to that fine upstanding factory worker last week?
Yet Biden out debated Sanders last night. What does that say about Sanders as a candidate? Please provide links of Obama cutting these deals secretly. I see again, when things go south for Sanders it is because of poorly informed voters..... not Sander's message. If Sanders wants to stay in, he can. There will not be a brokered convention and Sanders is getting crushed now by his own demographics in places he had to win. Maybe Sanders and Tulsi can throw a pity party together. Yes and then Biden can point out that Trump supported all of those things as well. I wouldn't count on it. Could you imagine Sanders trying to pay for 100 trillion dollars in spending with a recession on the horizon? The best part of the debate was Biden looking at Sanders and asking him how the hell he is going to get all this passed.
