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Biden v Sanders debate thread

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by tmoney1101, Mar 15, 2020.

  1. Mr.Scarface

    Mr.Scarface Member

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    Your opinion doesn't matter. Stop trying to prop up Bernie. You are afraid on Biden winning.
     
  2. ThatBoyNick

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    A freeze is essentially a cut due to ceasing to match inflation.

    Again, rationalize it how you want.
     
  3. justtxyank

    justtxyank Contributing Member

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    Bernie gets to benefit from basically never accomplishing anything because he's never had to make tough compromises.
     
  4. ThatBoyNick

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    Fair argument.

    I think it speaks to one's values, which is Bernie's point, he's never been for cutting those essential programs. Then Biden lying is also not good.
     
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  5. justtxyank

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    These types of arguments aren't even worth addressing anymore. Biden wasn't propped up by anyone and the primaries haven't been rigged.
     
  6. Sweet Lou 4 2

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    @Trader_Jorge is definitely one of the greatest trolls on D&D. As a former troll, I tip my cap to him.
     
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  7. Deckard

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    Again and again Bernie made accusations about Joe Biden that were taken out of context, and Bernie knew it. You simply don't understand how the government works. In a Congress dominated by another party, you frequently have to compromise to get amendments passed that lessen the impact of a bill you are against. The price is very often a requirement that you vote for that bill. Sanders was an independent. An independent who got little done, but was free to cast plenty of "no" votes. I was a grownup back in the '80's and '90's. Were you?
     
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  8. Nook

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    I just listened to the Anderson Cooper interview with Sanders.... doesn’t sound like he is giving up any time soon and sounds like he still thinks he can win.
     
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  9. ThatBoyNick

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    Sad post Deck.
     
  10. T_Man

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    Exactly.... you can rationalize how you want and that is what Bernie did....

    Don't try to change history with a snippett..

    T_Man
     
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  11. justtxyank

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    He once again repeated the idea that he is going to increase crazy turnout numbers.
     
  12. ThatBoyNick

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    Bernie's smart, I'm sure he knows he can't win at this point. I'm sure Bernie wants to make his case in another debate, wants to use his support as leverage to get Joe to adopt more policies before dropping out. Joe's adoption of a more progressive college plan today was nice.
     
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  13. Sweet Lou 4 2

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    And you wonder why everyone suspects you are a Trump supporters
     
  14. ThatBoyNick

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    A freeze is a cut. If inflation is 2% a year and you freeze the inflation increase you just made a 2% cut.
     
  15. T_Man

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    This stated it best... Go read and learn what we lived thru... Read EVERYTHING... Not just one sentence....

    Did you even read the link to the fact checker?

    T_Man
     
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  16. Nook

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    Yes... and I believe I heard him make reference to rigged/fixed elections. I think the point that he has shifted Biden left by Cooper was good but Sanders wanted no part of that. I also would like to know where he got the number 50 trillion dollars for Biden’s healthcare plan.
     
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  17. Deckard

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    Responding to sad posts, Nick. As I said, Bernie was taking things out of context, and he knew he was taking them out of context. Bernie knows how Congress operates. Actually read my post. It's easy to take a snippet of video and attempt to make it mean something it really doesn't if the context is not provided. Politicians do it all the time, and Bernie is a politician, believe it or not.
     
  18. B-Bob

    B-Bob "94-year-old self-described dreamer"

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    Against all evidence. Interesting!
     
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  19. ThatBoyNick

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    It's not out of context, perhaps you're okay with cuts to SS and Medicaid as a political bargaining tool against an opposition party, I'm against that, most Dems have historically been against that, it's something that's usually off the table, for Joe it wasn't. It's not a snippet, I'm not confused on the circumstances, I'm aware of the position Joe was taking.
     
  20. justtxyank

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    There's no question that he energizes a lot of young people, but all of the facts in two elections show that he does not spike turnout. It's one thing for him to believe it will happen, but how can his supporters continue to buy this?
     
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