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Astros have quit

Discussion in 'Houston Astros' started by Rvo384, Sep 24, 2023.

  1. Rvo384

    Rvo384 Member

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    Certain players have
     
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    Tucker had the biggest quit on the team. He looks like he wants his at-bats to be over as soon as possible.
     
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    Just curious. Do you honestly think he doesn't give a s*** and has truly quit? Do you honestly feel that he's not doing everything he can to get back on track? I'm curious if people really think this.
     
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    His demeanor is bad. Not a good look.
     
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    He hasn't actively quit. He just is not mentally strong enough to overcome what he is facing so with how meek every at bat is it just appears that he actively quit.
     
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    That's not an answer to my question. Do you think he's just given up and doesn't care? Of course his demeanor looks bad....he's s*** right now and he knows it.

    But to call him and anyone else on this team a quitter after everything they've given us over the last 7 years is f***ing pathetic.
     
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  7. Rvo384

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    Tucker had a reputation of being lazy when he was in the minors. His approach at the plate consistently looks LAZY. Yea he is a quitter
     
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    BBB
    By bye Baker
     
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    I didn't watch tonight's game and this thread reeks of Tucker. He looks bored to be out there and so does Brantley.
     
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    The idea that players who have played for years and played all season will decide to just stop trying in game 7 of the ALCS is asinine. Players go through slumps all the time. Did Altuve quit in the playoffs last season when he made maldy look like alverez? Did Yordan quit after game 2 against seattle when he did nothing for weeks after? Of course not
     
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    Pouting because he didn’t get that 30/30 season
     
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    Yes, he's a quitter.
     
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    I don’t think anyone quit. They got beat.

    Fans are all emotional because of the great success the Astros have had in recent years. Losing hurts, but in about four months we start a new season and hope springs eternal.


    Rockets get started tomorrow!!!!
     
  14. marks0223

    marks0223 2017 and 2022 World Series Champions
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    Tucker definitely quit being a good player, but it wasn't like it was an active decision to quit. Tucker had more reasons than most of the players to have a badass postseason. He's in his arbitration years and you can bet your ass that the Astros will bring up his postseason stats to the arbitrator as a reason to pay him less next season.
     
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    For what it's worth... https://deadspin.com/houston-astros-dusty-baker-alcs-diamondbacks-nlcs-1850952929

    The Houston Astros couldn’t outrun Dusty Baker forever
    The Houston manager was hardly the only reason the defending champs spit it, but he didn’t help
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    Sam Fels
    Publishedan hour ago


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    Dusty Baker
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    Call it my bitterness lingering from 2003. Even I acknowledge that Dusty Baker has become a fine, and probably only fine, postseason manager. The mangling of the San Francisco Giants and Chicago Cubs of yore is long in the rearview. The Cincinnati Reds and Washington Nationals were less of a nosedive, though still ended up face down in the dirt. Toward the end of his stint in DC and with the Astros he has gotten the urgency of every out come October.

    That doesn’t mean one can truly outrun their nature. The 2023 ALCS won’t go down as a classic mastermind from him.

    It’s not one particular game. There wasn’t much Baker could do when Christian Javier turned into an inflatable pitch-back in the first inning and got one out. This wasn’t a complete Astros team. They were a 90-win team, with problems in the lineup and the rotation. Javier and Framber Valdez weren’t what they were last season, and even the midseason pickup of Justin Verlander only revealed that he’s finally showing his age.

    Still, the Astros biggest problem for most of the season is that the bottom half of their lineup sucks. Jeremy Pena hasn’t proven he can hit at this level, despite a hot 10 days last October. Martin Maldonado isn’t even a good pitch framer anymore, and he’s always been better off with a pool noodle at the plate.

    Baker made it worse by subbing Mauricio Dubon in center for Chas McCormick. Yanier Diaz couldn’t get a start over Maldonado. If Maldonado is such a pitcher-whisperer, he can do it from the dugout between innings. Having only half a lineup killed the Astros, especially when Kyle Tucker lost all feeling in his arms for the series, apparently.

    This series was lost in the first two games when the Astros scored four runs total, all in Game 2. Dubon, Pena, and Maldonado combined for two hits in two games. The Astros lost Game 1 by two runs and Game 2 by one, and one more big hit could have swung the series.

    Baker got away with still treating Justin Verlander like the back of his baseball card instead of the mid-rotation guy he is at the moment, which eventually led him to turn around to see the first of Adolis Garcia’s series-turning moments. Baker was lucky that the Rangers bullpen walks around with dynamite sticks in their back pocket at all times. There was the “interesting” decision to send Jon Singleton up to pinch hit for Pena in Game 6 instead of Diaz or McCormick, which got washed away by yet another Garcia smash.

    Baker is hardly the only cause. The Astros lost both of Valdez’s starts and he wasn’t very good. They didn’t have too much after Verlander and Valdez, even though they got the bonus of a great start from Javier early in the series.

    But one of Baker’s constant foibles as a manager is giving his veterans far too much leeway, even when they stink. Hell, he does it even after they’ve left his team, as I still wake up in cold sweats over him being more afraid of Lenny Harris than Mike Lowell in Game 1 in 2003. Maldonado doesn’t do anything tangible anymore, and with Pena being glove-only the Astros couldn’t really afford to give away centerfield to just defense too. This was not a team that was set up in its best format to win. And they didn’t.

    And it will apparently be Baker’s swan song from the dugout. Fans in San Francisco, Chicago, Cincinnati, and DC will probably say that it’s a more fitting end than if he had won another ring.
     

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