Not completely kidding...i know its not very PC to say stuff like that but since I am not running for office anytime soon, i dont really care.....Fact of the matter is that we live in a different world than we lived in on Sept 10, 2001....the rules have changed....i feel bad for the "any ol brown skinned guy" being held captive but that's the way things are nowadays thanks to the actions of 19 guys who, on Sept 10, 2001, fell under the category of "any ol brown skinned guys".
Actually those 19 hijackers fall under the category of a very small minority of 'ol brown skin guys'. Do you stand for anything? Are there principles that you believe in?
I'll take a stab. Racist murder and torture. He seems way into that. And since he's not running for office he can clearly voice his deeply held racist, murderous convictions.
And I got tossed for losing my temper. I've never said anything as dumb or hateful as you have right in this thread, on the board or elsewhere.
If you advocate torturing people based on the color of their skin or their nationality then yes you are absolutely a racist and a pretty damn sick one to boot. While that might be news to you, it's not news to anyone else reading your posts.
Oh Boy! I'm going to make some popcorn. NJ please keep going with your views on torture. You obviously are on the right track here. Please continue
Guess what...apparently the gov't agrees with me to some extent because they are the ones pulling the torture strings...not me....so you have a much bigger argument on your hands than the one with me on this bbs. Write to your local congressman. In the meantime, this is life as you know it in the year 2005....deal with it.
True...but the enemy thus far has proven to be brown skinned men. Its not like they are torturing black women or oriental men or jewish grandmas....they are searching for answers the best they know how. Apparently they haven't been to clutchfans to find out how it should be done...or else the world would be at peace by now.
i understand the frustration. i just don't think getting into torture...particularly with people we don't have any evidence to be holding in the first place...is productive nor the right thing to do. and if the only evidence we have is the color of the skin...well...that's just not good enough. and then we become something that i don't even wish to protect any more.
The government's for torturing "any ol brown skinned foriegner?" Really? I must have missed that memo. I have a lot of big problems with our current government, but if I thought they were anywhere near as messed up, hateful and racist as you apparently are there is no way in hell I would "deal with it." And neither would the rest of America. I think the Bush White House has been responsible for some criminal, some downright heinous acts, but if they were like you the entire country would be in the streets demanding their removal. The government is not with you here, NJ Rocket. Virtually no one in this country is with you here. Cheney's position on torture is reprehensible but he would never advocate the torture of random people based on skin color. You're a proud racist and you really better hope there's no such thing as Hell. Max or FB or somebody who does this sort of thing -- pray for this guy.
Fair enuf....but don't u think that our gov't has a little more reason than the color of their skin to bring someone in for questioning and torture? I mean, do you really believe that they are just pulling random people off of the street? I suppose once in a blue moon an innocent guy gets hosed...but that happens in our judicial system here too...its inevitable. Should we stop just because one in 1000 gets hosed? Apparently, there isn't a better way to do whatever it is our gov't is doing...or they wouldnt be doing it.
i don't have personal knowledge of how often it happens. i've read reports that indicates that it happens pretty frequently. and the fact the government has worked so hard to "get around" the requirement that you have to have some real charges or evidence to hold someone in custody for any length of time is very concerning to me.
