I did "cite" things. For God's sake, I gave you post numbers in that old thread which substantiated what I was saying and which overturned your baseless accusations about my derailment of that old thread. YOU are confusing things here. I have not researched old threads to quote you on abortion. Not worth my time. I'll stick with my recollection and you can have yours. LIkewise. In fact, you used a version of it in a post you made today about ~"legal medical procedures only being performed in licensed medical facilities." Allowing is just the other side of the coin of forcing. If you allow abortion, it is on your conscience. You were complaining before the law changed and now you're complaining that I want to change it to protect innocent life. You wish!