3rd Attempt: GOP/Trump Repeal & Replace ACA and Trump lie about pre-exist coverage

The Trump bots here probably won't have the guts to not support this bill on the DD but this is the one issue I've seen with my R friends on FB and elsewhere posting videos of Kimmel and Lewis Black the other night on The Daily Show and these are hard Right Wingers who obviously are expressing hate for this bill even though I'm sure they still don't like ACA.

How do Republicans not see how much of a political loser healthcare is? It's all about getting Koch and other donors their tax cut so why don't they make a deal with them to just do a straight tax cut instead of doing a bill that will boot them out of office in 2018?

 

McCain just announced that he's voting No. That gives cover for Murkowski and Collins to also vote no (or more likely just scuttle the vote altogether). This is most likely toast. Even if the bribes in the bill buy off Murkowski, Collins still will probably vote no (and she might retire anyway and run for governor so voting no will actually help her in Maine)

 

Pre-existing conditions are the new third-rail in American politics. The American people overwhelmingly believe that you should not be denied health insurance due to a for-profit company's broad definition of "pre-existing condition" (acne, depression, pregnancy, etc.).

The GOP needs to learn we are not going back to the pre-Obamacare era when it comes to pre-existing condition coverage and get onboard with mechanisms that ensure coverage for these people is possible (ie, the individual mandate). It's the height of personal irresponsibility to float through life without health coverage and expect the taxpayer to pick up the tab when you inevitably get sick and require treatment. The sooner we can start working together to improve existing laws, without gutting the Obamacare protections people really enjoy (pre-existing coverage, no limit on lifetime spending caps, children staying on parents' plans until age 26), the sooner the GOP can actually stand for something.

 

Bravo! Great post.

 

McCain announces opposition to the new health care proposal, citing the lack of Cboe score and rush to pass this bill.

Personally, I am liking him more now.

 

amen brother

 

Just about everything wrong with our politicians in Washington can be attributed to one thing -- the lack of term limits. Without it, these mofo let themselves to be preyed upon by special interests and the ultra rich who are demanding their promised tax cut.

This latest push to pass a new health care legislation with guns pointed to some of the more independent - minded republicans us exhibit 1. The rush to pass a law that will affect all of us, now or in the future, is a ****ing disgrace.

 

See what term limits can do.

 

Term limits don't matter at all. A lot of the people who voted for this are new. You have to realize that most of Congress has turned over since 2010. This is a gerrymandering issue in the House.

 

And the utter lack of interest by the current Supreme Court majority in limiting the huge sums now allowed to be given to campaigns. Don't forget that, either. We had campaign finance reform, as inadequate as it may have been, in my opinion, and the Roberts Court tossed it in the dumpster. And that wasn't enough for the right-wing Supreme Court majority. They absurdly declared that corporations were "people."

All during the election I kept telling people that they needed to vote for Hillary Clinton, whether they liked her or not, simply because of Federal judicial appointments, with many, like the Supreme Court, being for life. Not voting for Hillary gave you Justice Gorsuch, a 49 year old version of the late Justice Scalia. He could reside on the bench for the next several decades, voting against every progressive issue coming down the pike. Unless an unlikely transformation occurs to the man, something his history makes very unlikely, in my opinion, that's what we'll be getting. That's what Mr. trump, the fellow many of you thought "wouldn't be that bad, and anything would be better than Hillary!" gave the country.

 

Thanks for the heads up.

I am utterly shock and disappointed to learn term limits are ineffective to the corruptive powers in and around Washington.

I always thought that the moment someone landed in D.C. that they would be running for their reelection$.

 

Did you realize that your post is internally inconsistent? You don't want to take away the protections for those who have pre-existing conditions, but then you complain about people waiting until they have a pre-existing condition before getting health coverage. Then you complain about the taxpayers footing the bill for those that waited until they had a pre-existing condition to get health coverage, while at the same time expressing support for the individual mandate (the mechanism by which the taxpayers are forced to pay for those who have pre-existing conditions).

 

The parts of Obamacare that appeal to those who have he means to pay for private insurance i.e parents with decent insurance who have r kids less than 26 and also those who can pay for insurance, but are denied due to pre-existing conditions are certainly good. To call many of the folks who cannot pay for health insurance out as "the height of personal irresponsibility " shows unawareness.

 

Its common to associate age with corruption but if you look at the Republican votes against the health care bills, its been McCain (in Congress since 1982), Collins (since 1996), and Murkowski (since 2004). If anything age is a benefit at this point in history.

A lot the newer Republicans that have been elected have never seen a working Congress before. They've only seen the post 2010 Republican led House and Senate which is nothing but gridlock. We hear a lot about regular order but its important to note that a majority of the Republican caucus have never actually seen "regular order." This is actually why retirements are a bad thing right now on the Republican side. In theory they're good for Democrats but this also means more institutional brain drain from the Republicans and as they lose senior voices, they slowly lose any knowledge of how Congress even works. They'll all be replaced by partisans who only know gridlock and show, further cementing the Republican Party as a regional party literally incapable of governing,

 

McCain is living up to putting country over party, something he hasn't always done. I have no doubt he's doing some because he's feeling his mortality and doesn't want one of his last significant acts in Congress to be the deciding vote that leaves millions without health insurance and puts US healthcare in chaos. I don't see how he would go against his best buddy Lindsey Graham without this. It's troubling that we have to depend on an aging senator for this. As Grassley said there are at least 10 reasons to vote against this bill but he will do so just because it's what they've been saying for the past few years. It's the height of irresponsibility to allow yourself to become trapped by campaign rhetoric to knowingly vote for something you know is going to be problematic.

 

The bill that nobody wants to happen other than GOP donors, is back again.... and again.

 

If they get this through, they can double dip for more tax cuts.

MAGA