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2018 All-Stars

Discussion in 'Houston Astros' started by lnchan, Jun 24, 2018.

  1. Mr.Pringles

    Mr.Pringles Member

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    Agree. Gattis, Devo, Rondon are probably on the bubble as well
     
  2. robbie380

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    I’m sorry for saying Bregman wasn’t All Star worthy :eek:
     
  3. juicystream

    juicystream Contributing Member

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    What a difference a couple games can still make. Hopefully gets the players vote, otherwise he'll probably be a final vote candidate.
     
  4. bobrek

    bobrek Politics belong in the D & D

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    I essentially said the same. A handful of games ago, I said (accurately) that he had done nothing to distinguish him as an all-star, He is certainly trending in that direction now.
     
  5. lnchan

    lnchan Sugar Land Leonard

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    Say it with me now.

    All-Star Alex Bregman and All-Star Collin McHugh
     
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  6. texans1095

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    Amen to that. If Hinch gets his way we could end up with 6-7 All-Stars (JV, Cole, Morton, McHugh?, Altuve, Bregman and Gurriel?)
     
  7. bobrek

    bobrek Politics belong in the D & D

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    Why would Hinch get his way? The only control he has is the batting order, starting pitcher and when substitutions get made.
     
  8. texans1095

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    I thought he had at least some input in some of those final roster decisions? Or is it all decided by the league office and players voting?
     
  9. bobrek

    bobrek Politics belong in the D & D

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    They changed the process a while back. Hinch MAY have a stronger voice, but not as strong as in the past. I’m hoping he pitches the heck out of the Yankees, Red Sox and Mariners pitchers and rests any of the Astros. :)
     
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  10. lnchan

    lnchan Sugar Land Leonard

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    Changes in the CBA I believe in 2017...

    https://www.mlb.com/news/all-star-game-roster-rules-faq/c-239654292
    Who picks the reserves and pitchers?
    In short, it's a group effort. The player ballot, the Commissioner's Office and the fans all have a say in how the rosters rounded out. The new wrinkle this year is that the NL and AL skippers (in this case, Joe Maddon and Terry Francona) no longer have a say in the selections, so there won't be accusations of homerism this time around.

    How many player ballot selections are there?
    The ballots gathered in all 30 clubhouses shortly before the roster announcements account for 16 players in the NL and 17 in the AL -- eight pitchers (five starters and three relievers), as well as one backup for each position (including DH in the AL).y\

    What if the players selected a guy already voted into the starting lineup by the fans?
    Next man up. The guy who was second on the player ballot at that particular position is selected as the backup. This doesn't change the number of player ballot selections. The player ballot is basically used as a pecking order to fill the backup slot at each position.

    How many MLB selections are there?
    The Commissioner's Office is responsible for selecting seven NL players (four pitchers and three position players) and five AL players (four pitchers and one position player). At this stage, MLB must ensure that every club is represented by at least one All-Star selection.

    What about the fans?
    You guys aren't done yet. You'll fill 32nd and final spot on each roster via the Final Vote ballot. It will feature five position players as candidates (again, selected by MLB) from each league.

    Does every team have to be represented?
    Yes, and it is the job of the Commissioner's Office to ensure this stipulation is accounted for with those selections.

    It should be noted, however, that if a player is selected to the roster and can't participate for a particular reason, he does not necessarily have to replaced by a teammate.

    How is the starting pitcher for each team determined?
    By the league managers. See, they still have some say in this process! The announcement is made the day before the game.

    Who picks the replacements for injured players or those who decline to participate?

    If an elected starter is going to be unable to play, the reserve who received the most votes on the player ballot at that particular position moves into the starting lineup. The roster replacement is then chosen by the league.

    If a player-elected reserve position player must be replaced, the next in line on the player ballot becomes a reserve. Once the top three finishers on the player ballot at a given position are covered, then it becomes a selection by the Commissioner's Office.

    Does an injured or otherwise unavailable player have to be replaced by a player from the same position?
    Not necessarily. Pitchers will be replaced by pitchers. But on the position-player front, we've seen situations like infielders replacing outfielders and vice versa.

    Are starters who pitch the Sunday (July 9) before the game allowed to participate?
    This rule has changed again this year. Initially, Sunday starters were deemed ineligible. Then, they were allowed to make the decision themselves (albeit limited to a single inning if they opted to play). Now, clubs or players are allowed to make requests for usage accommodation if there are factors (such as a DL stint, recent surgery, innings workload or other reasons) that would affect the pitcher's availability. If an accommodation is granted, then the parties will agree upon the pitcher's status and workload availability.

    So how many total All-Stars are we talking about here?
    Once all the replacement situations were settled, the average in recent years was 79 total All-Stars. That number will come down this year as a result of the new roster rules, but still: Don't get too worked up about "snubs" when the initial rosters are announced, because things will evolve in the lead-up to the game.

    What if a selected player gets traded to a team in the opposite league before the All-Star Game?
    This happened to Jeff Samardzija in 2014, when the Cubs dealt him to the A's. In such a scenario, the player is deemed ineligible to participate in the game but is still recognized as an All-Star for the original league. In Samardzija's case, he wore a generic NL jersey and All-Star Game cap for the pregame player introductions.
     
  11. lnchan

    lnchan Sugar Land Leonard

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    I wonder if Treveor Bauer is picking Gerrit Cole. If these rules were in place back in the day, AJ Pierzynski would never be an all-star.
     
  12. lnchan

    lnchan Sugar Land Leonard

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    Yahoo Projections
    https://sports.yahoo.com/american-league-star-game-roster-223603545.html


    1B – José Abreu, White Sox (Fan Vote), Yonder Alonso, Indians (Player Ballot)
    2B – Jose Altuve, Astros (Fan Vote), Jed Lowrie, Athletics (Player Ballot)
    3B – José Ramírez, Indians (Fan Vote), Alex Bregman, Astros (Player Ballot), Mike Moustakas, Royals (Commissioner's Office)
    SS – Manny Machado, Orioles (Fan Vote), Jean Segura, Mariners (Player Ballot),
    OF – Mookie Betts, Red Sox (Fan Vote), Mike Trout, Angels (Fan Vote), Aaron Judge, Yankees (Fan Vote), Michael Brantley, Indians (Player Ballot), Eddie Rosario, Twins (Player Ballot), Andrew Benintendi, Red Sox (Player Ballot),
    DH – J.D. Martinez, Red Sox (Fan Vote), Giancarlo Stanton, Yankees (Player Ballot)


    SP – Justin Verlander, Astros (Player Ballot), Luis Severino, Yankees (Player Ballot), Corey Kluber, Indians (Player Ballot), Gerrit Cole, Astros (Player Ballot), Chris Sale, Red Sox (Player Ballot), Blake Snell, Rays (Commissioner's Office), J.A. Happ, Blue Jays (Commissioner's Office)

    RP – Edwin Díaz, Mariners (Player Ballot), Aroldis Chapman, Yankees (Player Ballot), Craig Kimbrel, Red Sox (Player Ballot), Joe Jiménez, Tigers (Commissioner's Office), Keone Kela, Rangers (Commissioner's Office)

    Ineligible All-Star: Kelvin Herrera, RP (traded from Royals to Nationals)

    Manager: Jeff Luhnow, Astros
     
  13. conquistador#11

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    jeff luhnow? is that a mistake. it could be something quirky. Mlb all star is cool like that, cool like that
     
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  14. Mr.Pringles

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    My guess on the AL Squad

    C Ramos/S. Perez
    1B Moreland/Abreu
    2B Altuve/Lowrie/Solarte
    SS Machado/Lindor
    3B Ramirez/Bregman
    OF Betts/Rosario/Castellanos
    OF Trout/Mazara
    OF Judge/Haniger
    DH J.D. Martinez/Cruz/Stanton

    SP’s Severino/Verlander/Kluber/Sale/ Snell/Morton/Cole

    RP’s Diaz/Kimbrel/Chapman/Treinen/ McHugh
     
  15. The Beard

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    My honest guess

    Verlander
    Morton
    Cole
    Altuve
    Bregman
    Gattis

    I think Springer cold spell knocks him out of any possibility, and I think Devo and McHugh are worthy but with 6 already on the team guarantees keep them off
     
  16. samtaylor

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    Locks:
    • Altuve
    • Verlander
    Probables:
    • Cole
    • Bregman
    No more than 2 of these on the bubble:
    • Springer
    • Correa
    • Gattis
    • McHugh
    • Devo
     
  17. DVauthrin

    DVauthrin Contributing Member

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    Charlie Morton needs to be added to that bubble list.
     
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  18. bobrek

    bobrek Politics belong in the D & D

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    I doubt Springer, Gattis or Correa will make it. Altuve, Verlander and Bregman should be locks at this point.
     
  19. torque

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    Altuve, Verlander, Bregman, Cole is my guess. Morton and McHugh deserve to go.
     
  20. NIKEstrad

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    Altuve struck out last night to give Gurriel an all-star vote boost with the walkoff. What a good teammate.
     
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