1. Welcome! Please take a few seconds to create your free account to post threads, make some friends, remove a few ads while surfing and much more. ClutchFans has been bringing fans together to talk Houston Sports since 1996. Join us!

2017 NFL Draft

Discussion in 'Football: NFL, College, High School' started by gucci888, Jan 10, 2017.

  1. A_3PO

    A_3PO Member

    Joined:
    Apr 29, 2006
    Messages:
    42,440
    Likes Received:
    5,848
    Jonathan Allen is going to be a monster and Leonard Fournette will disappoint.
     
  2. Rudyc281

    Rudyc281 Member

    Joined:
    Jun 23, 2011
    Messages:
    11,668
    Likes Received:
    9,316
    Juju smith?
     
  3. Bobbythegreat

    Bobbythegreat Member
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Jan 23, 2013
    Messages:
    63,469
    Likes Received:
    26,085
    Yeah I could see that. You really have to doubt a player's commitment and love for the game when they sit out a bowl game healthy. I get that he was trying to make a "business decision" but I don't really want people like that on my team. Who is to say he won't make a similar "business decision" and make himself unavailable for games while nearing the end of his rookie contract?
     
  4. gucci888

    gucci888 Contributing Member

    Joined:
    May 20, 2002
    Messages:
    17,084
    Likes Received:
    6,343
    Fournette missed more than a 1/3 of the season due to injury including the last regular season game so have to wonder how healthy he really was.
     
    Yaosthirdleg likes this.
  5. Bennie Anders

    Bennie Anders Member

    Joined:
    Feb 18, 2009
    Messages:
    555
    Likes Received:
    129
    I'm also a seller of Fournette who is not as ripped as AP was.

    Mahomes may be a bust but guys who have as many throws as him with the size will always get a long look. If he's there at the top of the 3rd Round I could easily see the Texans making a move up.

    Mixon is a big-time sleeper in terms of talent and I would not mind seeing Houston come up with an excuse to draft him.
     
  6. gucci888

    gucci888 Contributing Member

    Joined:
    May 20, 2002
    Messages:
    17,084
    Likes Received:
    6,343
    I'd almost guarantee you that Mixon won't be on the Texans draft board.
     
  7. coachbadlee

    coachbadlee Member

    Joined:
    Feb 5, 2010
    Messages:
    28,050
    Likes Received:
    8,556
    You pass them up. You can get equal value QB'S in the 2nd or 3rd.
     
  8. Buck Turgidson

    Joined:
    Feb 14, 2002
    Messages:
    85,784
    Likes Received:
    84,193
    He was hurt. High ankle sprains are a b****. Christian McCaffrey is the guy you want to direct your ire towards.
     
  9. Bob Barker 007

    Joined:
    Jul 7, 2014
    Messages:
    1,701
    Likes Received:
    1,253
    Mitch Trubisky
    Deshone Kizer
    Patrick Mahomes
    Nathan Peterman
     
  10. ghettocheeze

    ghettocheeze Member

    Joined:
    Jun 9, 2006
    Messages:
    7,325
    Likes Received:
    9,134
    I'm going to make a bold prediction: Leonard Fournette is going to blow up at the combine - the event is rigged to generate hype for explosive athletes - and the Titans will draft him at #5 with the pick from the Rams.

    As much as I hate for our rival to get better, it makes sense for the Titans to pair Mariota with the best RB prospect since Adrian Peterson.

    Not that I'm saying Fournette is going to become the next Peterson, but that this pick makes too much sense. That's exactly what I would do if I were the Titans general manager.
     
  11. sugrlndkid

    sugrlndkid Member

    Joined:
    Apr 22, 2012
    Messages:
    11,492
    Likes Received:
    1,660
    Patrick Mahomes...I like...his 20+ yd bombs are so pretty...I dont watch a lot of college football, and Tech has a gimmicky offense...but he has real arm talent...terrible footwork.. Weird side arm delivery at times(Matt Stafford like)..but this kid can play. Get him in the 2nd round after getting a guard or Tackle in the 1st...
     
  12. dream2clips

    dream2clips Member

    Joined:
    Jun 22, 2013
    Messages:
    286
    Likes Received:
    247
    Umm, they just drafted Henry with a premium pick and have a highly productive Demarco Murray in that backfield as the starter.

    Because he'll be getting paid. By definition, the business decision has already been made. I get what you're reaching for but this example doesn't get you there IMO.
     
  13. Bobbythegreat

    Bobbythegreat Member
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Jan 23, 2013
    Messages:
    63,469
    Likes Received:
    26,085
    I just don't like players with questionable motivation and love for the game. It's how you end up with a guy like Mario Williams who just sees the game as a paycheck who could have been an all time great....if he cared enough.
     
  14. dream2clips

    dream2clips Member

    Joined:
    Jun 22, 2013
    Messages:
    286
    Likes Received:
    247
    Yep, that's where I thought u were going and on merit it's difficult to disagree with that stance - rather I agree. My issue is with Fournette's specific situation. The media gave this guy the Beno Cook / Ron Pawlus - 3 Heisman's treatment - after he broke out early last year. To hear over and over you're "The Man" "The Best" "Ready for Sunday" "Wasting his time" "Start on Sunday's right now" "Top 5 back in the league on day 1"...see his administrators run out a head coach who will have to be paid millions upon millions to NOT coach....allegedly offer tens of millions more to a coach with 2 yrs head coaching experience. All this in the framework that your next play may be the difference between the future everyone has built up in your mind and your own special version of Marcus Lattimore's hell.

    My point is really just to reserve judgement for a guy in his specific situation. Could he do with a bit (LOT) more of Deshaun Watson's desire, passion, and heart - optically, absolutely! But Watson is a 12/10 on the intangibles and leadership scale. I think if your RB is a 7 or 8/10 that's plenty to get by and we won't know that about Fournette until he's a pro.
     
  15. Bobbythegreat

    Bobbythegreat Member
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Jan 23, 2013
    Messages:
    63,469
    Likes Received:
    26,085
    That's fair. I was just saying that I would be weary about taking him really early in the draft, not that he's for sure going to be a flop. He still should be a very good RB.
     
  16. A_3PO

    A_3PO Member

    Joined:
    Apr 29, 2006
    Messages:
    42,440
    Likes Received:
    5,848
    No way with Derrick Henry already on the roster and the Titans having so many other needs. Wouldn't make any sense.
     
  17. zeeshan2

    zeeshan2 Member

    Joined:
    Feb 20, 2013
    Messages:
    48,571
    Likes Received:
    52,025
    http://www.si.com/nfl/2017/01/16/nf...fs-positional-needs?xid=socialflow_twitter_si
     
    Yaosthirdleg likes this.
  18. J.R.

    J.R. Member

    Joined:
    Jun 30, 2008
    Messages:
    107,556
    Likes Received:
    156,489
    Much has been made as to where Deshaun Watson will end up in the draft. We presently grade the Clemson quarterback as a second round prospect yet there are reports he may end up as a top 15 choice. I can tell you after surveying league people during the first day of Shrine practice the overwhelming belief is Watson will receive second round grades in war rooms.

    He’ll grade well in the areas of character and leadership but his accuracy down the field and out to the flanks has been a constant worry. Teams here also question whether or not Watson can play from the pocket.

    I do believe Watson could fit into the late part of round one for a team willing to trade up for his services, ala Teddy Bridgewater.
    http://draftanalyst.com/shrine-game-buzz-monday-evening

    Who's No. 1 QB on your board?

    Daniel Jeremiah & Bucky Brooks: DeShone Kizer
    Gil Brandt & Lance Zierlein: Mitch Trubisky
    Chad Reuter: Deshaun Watson​
     
  19. Rudyc281

    Rudyc281 Member

    Joined:
    Jun 23, 2011
    Messages:
    11,668
    Likes Received:
    9,316
    David njoku has already shot up 13 on Daniel Jeremiah top 50
     
  20. coachbadlee

    coachbadlee Member

    Joined:
    Feb 5, 2010
    Messages:
    28,050
    Likes Received:
    8,556
    I knew it. Every time I mention a player, their stock starts to rise. Now Josh Reynolds just bested out at the Senior Bowl. So now he probably wont be around when we pick in the 4th. Next up, start looking for Corn Elder to blow up.
     

Share This Page

  • About ClutchFans

    Since 1996, ClutchFans has been loud and proud covering the Houston Rockets, helping set an industry standard for team fan sites. The forums have been a home for Houston sports fans as well as basketball fanatics around the globe.

  • Support ClutchFans!

    If you find that ClutchFans is a valuable resource for you, please consider becoming a Supporting Member. Supporting Members can upload photos and attachments directly to their posts, customize their user title and more. Gold Supporters see zero ads!


    Upgrade Now