13-yr old girl strip searched at school... case now with Supreme Court

I wouldn't want my kid EVER strip searched by "school officials". Under any circumstances. If the situation is serious enough, detain the student (make sure there are no weapons - does not require strip searching) and call the effing police.

 

I would freak if this happened to my kid. To the point where I would want to beat someones ass.

 

Remember when the cops Handcuffed the 5 yr girl in Florida?

Folx didn't seem to give a ***** about that. Why would something like this surprise you?

Rocket River

 

This is how the evil beast of the fed. government rears its ugly head. Since it is government property, the government has the right to do whatever they want. Searching through private property (strip search, automobile, backpack) all would be illegal w/out prob. cause, but going through the locker would be allowed. If a child is detained, then a law enforcement officer or a parent needs to be present.

 

Local school officials=federal agents?

 

Bureaucracies love nothing more than invasive power, and will then claim that the use of invasive power is necessary for them to fulfill their 'duties'.

U.S. Customs can legally strip search anyone, regardless of their past record, at any entry point to the United States. Air Safety regulations have cleared the way for security systems that do full-body scanning can see through you and your family's clothing, and they intend to make it mandatory. Police in most counties can legally demand a blood sample to test for alcohol, and can, in many cases, perform forcible strip searches at their own discretion (and they do so, quite often). Many employers can demand that you submit your urine for testing, and can either refuse to hire you or can fire you based on the results. And, as is the case in this article, school officials can strip search your children (though now, apparently, they aren't allowed to do so through "unverified drug tips" - guess they'll have to find another reason).

But don't worry ... they obviously only do this to bad people, right?

 

So would I.

I have a 13 year old daughter.

 

10th amendment. ie: if the constitution does not grant powers to the fed government, then they have no right to meddle; Specifically speaking about No Child Left Behind Act and and Goals 2000.

I understand that this particular incident had nothing to do with the fed. government. What I am saying is that as more government is introduced to any given structure, it is ran more inefficiently. Also, as education is ran at the state level, this battle does not belong in the supreme court.

Education should be left in the private hands period. Northside, I understand you lean more towards socialism, so there is no need to debate how you think we need government intervention. Im a big boy and I hold myself responsible for my own actions. I don't need handouts from the government. But hell, I'll even admit I would have a poorer education if it was privatized completely(thats not saying much as I went to one of the better school systems).

If schools were in private hands, then this would not be an issue.

 

(private) Employers have the right do conduct business as they please within the confines of the laws. I despise piss tests and I think they are ridiculous waste of time and money for most jobs.

 

If schools were in private hands, there may be no oversight at all. Are you suggesting that, if schools were all owned privately, things like this wouldn't happen?

 

The laws are what enable employers to do these things. Why don't we just repeal the laws that make it legal for employers to invade a person's privacy? There'd be fewer laws, and less government intervention.

 

She was tattled on for giving out prescription strength Ibuprofen? Even if this was an accusation of cocaine, the strip search would be excessive, considering this was a result of another kid's accusations. (KIDS ARE ****ING LIARS.)

Hell, if a teacher saw her giving out the pills to multiple people, a strip search still would be excessive. What the hell were these people thinking?

They even said she had no prior disciplinary problems... and yet the first court sided with the school?

 

Eh...I don't necessarily believe socialism is a great system, just that it is the lesser of two evils. I also defend capitalism on certain points, just that for me, unregulated capitalism is the worst economic system liberal democracies can pursue.

I went to a private school and I won't lie, my education was a hell of a lot better then most of my friends who went public. I feel like the concentration of douchebags in my life is pretty high (and I probably am nearing being one by now), but other then that, everything else was better. We had more everything. I know public schools that didn't have basketball or football teams, we had rugby, tennis, ping pong...the whole nine yards. I 100% believe that if I hadn't gone through private I would be worse off.

My stance when it comes to education is simple. Public-private, with private schools receiving subsidization IF they allow for some gouvernment intervention. There needs to be a balance of both public and private schools so that we don't go profiteering off of the most important initiative society has and that we don't have decrepit school systems ruling everything.

 

ibuprofen? is this a joke?

We have to get this school safety thing in check. I just saw on real sports where you cannot play dodgeball or even tag at school anymore.

 

I think the strip searcher was just a pervert. There's too many perverts in the schools now. All these teachers and principals using kids for their sexual gratification is sick.

 

An informant's tip is often enough to trigger probable cause for a search.

That being said, strip searching a 13 year old girl is WAAAAY out of bounds. That type of thing is beyond what school should do. The police should be involved, and during questioning, a parent should be present unless the parents waive that right.

 

No kidding. I dont know what they were thinking!

 

I always thought on school ground they could search whatever they wanted. While what they did was excessive, depending on how the court rules it could have big ramifications.

 

How many times do they strip search boys? The guys only want to strip search the girls to get free child p*rn.