1. Welcome! Please take a few seconds to create your free account to post threads, make some friends, remove a few ads while surfing and much more. ClutchFans has been bringing fans together to talk Houston Sports since 1996. Join us!

Trump's blatant lie about the tax cut

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by adoo, Dec 20, 2017.

  1. jcf

    jcf Member

    Joined:
    Jul 21, 2012
    Messages:
    2,190
    Likes Received:
    2,271

    Not disagreeing. And the chart did show wages going down more quickly than before. I just liked B-bob's point that even with the data that proves the point, someone felt the need to make it look more dramatic.
     
  2. edwardc

    edwardc Member

    Joined:
    May 7, 2003
    Messages:
    9,495
    Likes Received:
    7,653
    That's always going to happen i think most would agree the dramatics will happen.
     
    jcf likes this.
  3. NewRoxFan

    NewRoxFan Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Feb 22, 2002
    Messages:
    54,426
    Likes Received:
    54,335
    Guess civilian federal employees are going to be asked to pay for those tax cuts corporations and the very rich got...

     
  4. NewRoxFan

    NewRoxFan Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Feb 22, 2002
    Messages:
    54,426
    Likes Received:
    54,335
    Perhaps, because... it does benefit corporations and the rich more...

    Internal GOP Poll: 'We've Lost the Messaging Battle' on Tax Cuts
    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...l-we-ve-lost-the-messaging-battle-on-tax-cuts

    [​IMG]
     
  5. NewRoxFan

    NewRoxFan Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Feb 22, 2002
    Messages:
    54,426
    Likes Received:
    54,335
  6. mdrowe00

    mdrowe00 Member

    Joined:
    Dec 1, 2008
    Messages:
    2,666
    Likes Received:
    3,889
    ...I thought, when you were looking to bribe someone or "pay" for votes...

    ...well, maybe it's just me (and math was never really my best subject in school)...

    ...it just sort of seems to be part of the deal to actually PAY those bribes out...wouldn't it?
     
    B-Bob likes this.
  7. NewRoxFan

    NewRoxFan Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Feb 22, 2002
    Messages:
    54,426
    Likes Received:
    54,335
  8. NewRoxFan

    NewRoxFan Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Feb 22, 2002
    Messages:
    54,426
    Likes Received:
    54,335
    While you pay your share and think you pay too much for taxes, just remember that trump and kushner dodged their taxes...

     
  9. NewRoxFan

    NewRoxFan Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Feb 22, 2002
    Messages:
    54,426
    Likes Received:
    54,335
  10. jo mama

    jo mama Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Jul 9, 2002
    Messages:
    13,410
    Likes Received:
    7,513
    this might deserve its own thread, but since its due in part to tax cuts ill just post here...

    https://www.cnbc.com/2018/10/15/us-...illion-in-fiscal-2018-as-spending-surges.html

    US budget deficit expands to $779 billion in fiscal 2018 as spending surges
    • The federal budget deficit rose 17 percent in fiscal 2018, according to the Trump administration.
    • Spending jumped, and revenue only increased slightly following the GOP tax cuts.
    • The Trump administration has pushed for dramatic budget cuts at several agencies and supported massive increases in military spending.
    The U.S. federal budget deficit rose in fiscal 2018 to the highest level in six years as spending climbed, the Trump administration said Monday.

    The deficit jumped to $779 billion, $113 billion or 17 percent higher than the previous fiscal period, according to a statement from Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin and Office of Management and Budget Director Mick Mulvaney. It was larger than any year since 2012, when it topped $1 trillion. The budget shortfall rose to 3.9 percent of U.S. gross domestic product.

    The deficit increased by $70 billion less than anticipated in a report published in July, according to the two officials.

    Federal revenue rose only slightly, by $14 billion after Republicans chopped tax rates for corporations and most individuals. Outlays climbed by $127 billion, or 3.2 percent. A spike in defense spending, as well as increases for Medicaid, Social Security and disaster relief, contributed to the increase.

    The Trump administration and congressional Republicans have pledged their commitment to fiscal discipline, despite the fact that they passed a tax law projected to dramatically expand budget deficits last year and then authorized a boost in spending. In a statement, Mulvaney claimed that "America's booming economy will create increased government revenues," a point the GOP has repeatedly argued in favor of its tax plan.

    "But this fiscal picture is a blunt warning to Congress of the dire consequences of irresponsible and unnecessary spending," he added. "Going forward, President Trump and this Administration will continue to work with Congress to make the difficult choices needed to bring fiscal restraint, which, when matched with increasing revenue, will reduce our deficit."

    Several independent analyses have estimated the GOP tax plan will cause budget deficits to grow dramatically over time, even after economic growth is taken into account.

    The Trump administration has proposed dramatic cuts to spending in several government agencies to reduce deficits. Even many Republicans have rejected the severity of proposed budget cuts.

    The Treasury noted that receipts related to "excise, customs and other" jumped to $35 billion in September 2018, a 35 percent increase over the prior-year period. It is unclear how much of that revenue relates to Trump's tariffs on imports from major trading partners.
     
    FranchiseBlade likes this.
  11. NewRoxFan

    NewRoxFan Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Feb 22, 2002
    Messages:
    54,426
    Likes Received:
    54,335
  12. NewRoxFan

    NewRoxFan Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Feb 22, 2002
    Messages:
    54,426
    Likes Received:
    54,335
    For all of us that didn't get the corporation/rich person tax cut... h, and look, just before the midterms, imagine that...

     
  13. NewRoxFan

    NewRoxFan Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Feb 22, 2002
    Messages:
    54,426
    Likes Received:
    54,335
    trump will lie. About. Anything. And. Everything.

     
    RayRay10 and No Worries like this.
  14. NewRoxFan

    NewRoxFan Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Feb 22, 2002
    Messages:
    54,426
    Likes Received:
    54,335
  15. bobrek

    bobrek Politics belong in the D & D

    Joined:
    Sep 16, 1999
    Messages:
    36,288
    Likes Received:
    26,639
    I thought the previous tax cut was hugely beneficial to all Americans. Why does the middle class need more? Selfish jerks.
     
    Ottomaton and R0ckets03 like this.
  16. IVFL

    IVFL Member

    Joined:
    Jul 6, 2001
    Messages:
    1,371
    Likes Received:
    476
    Heaven help us. We are spending more than we make, so let's make less and then we will have extra time to afford what we couldn't afford in the first place because. . . . . .. . . . . Trickle down economics ? ? ? ? ? ? ?

    We are screwed, seriously this is just beyond crazytown. This just proves that Donald Trump has no idea what he is doing financially. It's not like he can have the US declare bankruptcy like he did multiple times. We need regular class citizens in government again. I don't care if they are Republican or Democrat I just want a person in government who has balanced a checking account once or twice in the last 10 years. What we have is a large group of people who are no longer attached to reality of day to day life. Everything is provided and done for them so they forget the simple things. Its like putting Micheal Jackson in charge of your finances.
     
    mdrowe00 and B-Bob like this.
  17. fchowd0311

    fchowd0311 Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Apr 27, 2010
    Messages:
    47,713
    Likes Received:
    36,649
    Donald Trump thinks we should print money to pay off the national debt.
     
  18. AleksandarN

    AleksandarN Member

    Joined:
    Aug 10, 2001
    Messages:
    4,452
    Likes Received:
    5,866
    Heck he said America should default on the debt in the past.
     
  19. NewRoxFan

    NewRoxFan Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Feb 22, 2002
    Messages:
    54,426
    Likes Received:
    54,335
    trump is unencumbered by the need to tell the truth...

     
  20. mdrowe00

    mdrowe00 Member

    Joined:
    Dec 1, 2008
    Messages:
    2,666
    Likes Received:
    3,889
    ...I'd bet dollars to donuts that's EXACTLY what the Donald believes...

    ...he's made more money off the U.S. Government that China has with all of those U.S. debts they hold...
     

Share This Page

  • About ClutchFans

    Since 1996, ClutchFans has been loud and proud covering the Houston Rockets, helping set an industry standard for team fan sites. The forums have been a home for Houston sports fans as well as basketball fanatics around the globe.

  • Support ClutchFans!

    If you find that ClutchFans is a valuable resource for you, please consider becoming a Supporting Member. Supporting Members can upload photos and attachments directly to their posts, customize their user title and more. Gold Supporters see zero ads!


    Upgrade Now