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[Official] Joe 2020

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by justtxyank, Apr 25, 2019.

  1. DonnyMost

    DonnyMost clean your room bucko
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    The only way he can address it is to come out and say that busing was bad policy and provide evidence for it.

    Doing this whole split-the-baby thing by saying you support it (or don't oppose it), just not at the federal level, is a road to nowhere electorally.

    Nobody, especially democrats who typically lean toward federal rules as opposed to states, is buying the argument that busing is somehow "good" in some places but not others.

    Unfortunately for Joe (and the democratic party as a whole), the window of opportunity for that discussion to take place or point to be made has passed.
     
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    So Bernie has not been wrong as shot about things?

    How about his support of the NRA?

    Biden was on the wrong side of history about this but he has more than enough skins on the wall about supporting civil rights as a whole.
     
  3. Dairy Ashford

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    Imagine a publicly subsidized radio-based news agency retaining recordings of public officials. How ****ed up would American History be if news organizations retained statements from members of the country's most powerful and founding institution for more than a week.
     
  4. Major

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    NPR keeps archives of things. Campaigns look through past stories. This isn't that complicated, even for you.

    Bussing in the 1970's somehow became a relevant topic in the democratic primaries, so the interview is of public interest. NPR didn't make it a story or bring it to the forefront.
     
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  5. Major

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    Well, of course not - Dems would use it against him.

    When he ran for POTUS, he was a 1%er - he was never a legit contender. It's just like no one is doing oppo research on or attacking Julian Castro or Michael Bennet.

    When he ran for VP, there's no one to go after him on bussing. The GOP certainly isn't going to do it, given their history and need to appeal to racists. And even if they did decide to try it, it's not exactly going to go well when Obama is his running mate.

    Again, when and who specifically do you think would have brought it up before now?
     
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  6. tallanvor

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    It wasn't a campaign that released the old interview dipshit. It was NPR. Another swing and miss.
     
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    We just need to use amnesty and get over with. Have them pay a fine and make them part of the system.
     
  9. tallanvor

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    Kicking the can down the road always works.
     
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    FWIW, "wrong side of history" is certainly questionable.

    Majority of Americans then were against it and I think the polls say they still are. Most people who say they "support" it now probably mean "hey I would have supported it THEN" but they don't actually want it now. Even Kamala Harris has said she wouldn't support federally mandated busing now and thinks local communities should decide.
     
  11. DonnyMost

    DonnyMost clean your room bucko
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    This is pretty much the republican solution.
     
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  12. CometsWin

    CometsWin Don't Sweat the Technique
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    Reagan's ideal.
     
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  13. tallanvor

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    Exactly proving the point that it solves nothing and kicks the can down road. Thank you.
     
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    Last year the Republicans offered amnesty and a defined road to citizenship to twice as many as was requested by the Democrats. All the Democrats had to do was agree to funding for the Wall. Obviously no one on the left felt strongly enough to agree to that.

    Until there is some sort of agreement on how to stop border crossings then there is no way I would want my politicians supporting any sort of amnesty to illegals.
     
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    I agree it is questionable and I don't really know what he was actually against.

    Harris has flipped on the topic she initially was calling for a return to federally mandated busing, she looks like was again got over her skies.
     
  17. biff17

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    He did a lot more than ask for wall funding and he torpedoed a deal from both democrats and republicans.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/02/14/us/politics/trump-immigration-veto-threat.html
     
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    This dude definitely touches kids
     
  19. B-Bob

    B-Bob my celli weighs a ton
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    Kinda funny that the Trumpers were investing in oppo research against Hunter Biden when they just needed to wait for the old busing thing to resurface. Oh well.
     
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    Why should he apologize? The Democratic Party is still the party of segragation.

     
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