Lol. “The Will of the People” should have had better leadership and a better plan. Why does the EU have an obligation to help the UK here? Another populist that’s not a fan of personal responsibility.... a very common theme among populist/trump supporters. So petty...
LMAO I am sure waging war with the EU will help the UK get a good post Brexit trade deal or help the millions of British immigrants in the EU. Brexit is only the beginning. There are years of negotiations waiting to happen.
Now that all pretences are over and the "talks" have sunk as everyone not delusional expected the EU is rumoured to offer the UK a Brexit extension till June 2020. I sure hope not because it can be disastrous for tourism. Either have it till April or after the summer. Hopefully Greece, Malta, Cyprus, Portugal, Italy and Spain will throw this idea out of the window. The real fate of Brexit will be determined anyway long before June, in November or December when the Brits have elections. Why give them so many useless months?
Speaker of Parliament John Bercow has now apparently taken it upon himself to bypass the UK government and engage in direct negotiations with the EU about Brexit. Seriously, there should be a law and someone should consider frogmarching this guy straight out of Parliament and into an orange jumpsuit at the appropriate incarceration facility. ‘Foreign collusion!’ Fury as John Bercow holds Brexit talks with new EU president JOHN Bercow has sparked outrage after it has emerged the meddling Speaker of the House of Commons has bypassed Prime Minister Boris Johnson and British Parliament to negotiate with the EU on Brexit for the United Kingdom. Brexit Party chair Richard Tice took to Twitter in a furious rampage against the Speaker of the Commons, arguing the Tory MP has no authority to act on behalf of Mr Johnson. Mr Tice, referring to David Sassoli, said: “Here in Brussels new President Sassoli admits in chamber that he has bypassed the UK PM and Govt and is now in direct discussions with Bercow about Brexit negotiations. He refused to take my urgent question on what authority they had to have these discussions.” It has also been claimed an option Mr Sassoli has agreed with Mr Bercow is a second EU referendum, sparking fury among Brexiteers. When asked if the claim was true, Mr Tice said: “Yes I am in chamber, we Brexit Party MEPs nearly fell off our chairs, gobsmacked.” The news sent shockwaves across social media, with others following suit to condemn the decision to completely bypass the British political system altogether. Fellow Brexit Party MEP David Bull said: “It’s absolutely outrageous.”
Much like the abdication of real principled leadership we've seen here in the USA, someone has to lead in Britain as well. Kudos to Bercow. Additionally, someone should frogmarch our mistake-in-chief in an orange jumpsuit to the appropriate incarceration facility.
LMAO. Bercow is a free man and can have as many discussions as he wants with whoever he wants. He has no authority to sign any treaty and come to any OFFICIAL agreement.
Boris Johnson promised (lied) to 80 Tory MPs that the Tories will not go in the elections under a no deal agenda. Because they threatened to immediately defect. Some people will never learn. Lie to me once shame on you. Lie to me twice, thrice ......a thousandth time shame on me.
Big news today, guys. UK PM Boris Johnson and Irish Taoiseach Leo Varadkar met in Northwest England today, and the Taoiseach came out in a very positive manner, suggesting that he thought it would be possible to come to an agreement and for the UK to leave the EU by October 31, 2019. Wow. Of course this is not a done deal by any means and could still easily fail to happen. But the opposition of the Irish has been up until now arguably the most difficult obstacle in the way of a Brexit deal. Varadkar says new Brexit treaty agreement 'possible' by end of October Afterwards, Varadkar told reporters: “I think it is possible to come to an agreement to have a treaty agreed to allow the UK to leave the EU in an orderly fashion and to have that done by the end of October.” He added that it was “very positive and very promising … I am now absolutely convinced that both Ireland and the UK want there to be an agreement that’s in the interests of Ireland and the UK, and the EU as a whole.” He added that he hoped the outcome of the talks would be sufficient to allow negotiations to resume. “I do see a pathway towards an agreement in the coming weeks. There are, of course, issues yet to be fully resolved: the first is the issue of consent and democracy, ensuring that any long-term arrangement that applies to Northern Ireland has the consent of the people of Northern Ireland; the second is the whole issue of customs, ensuring that there is no customs border between the north and the south; and also we had a good discussion looking forward to how relationships might look after Brexit, how we can strengthen cooperation north and south economically and politically, and also between Britain and Ireland,” he said. It sure would be interesting to hear what was said at that meeting.
The press conference was true. But whether that results in an actual, mutually agreeable deal, we will have to wait and see.
Yea.... I mean only the same issues for the past two years need to be worked before the Oct deadline.
Yeah but I find it strange how the Irish PM kept emphasizing "the consent of the people of NI". What does that mean? Obviously Stormont doesn't work so what? Will they have referendums? Also it's very important that this was publicly said with Johnson there. Because for the DUP and other unionists there aren't "the people of NI" they are just the british citizens. This means that the UK will keep accepting the GFA that stipulates every a person born in NI, can choose either nationality.
The EU 27 have given their lead Brexit negotiator Michael Barnier the 'green light' to engage in 'tunnel negotiations' with the UK with regards to Boris Johnson's proposals. I do not know what ;tunnel negotiations' are precisely. But it appears to be the accelerated and frantic last minute burst of activity in which these sorts of arrangements are frequently accomplished. EU27 gives green light for Brexit talks to move to key 'tunnel' phase Major boost for Boris Johnson as Michel Barnier secures EU agreement to accelerate negotiations Michel Barnier, the EU’s chief Brexit negotiator, has secured the agreement of the EU27 to open intensive “tunnel” negotiations on Boris Johnson’s latest proposals in a major boost for the British government. Sources said ambassadors representing the EU member states had given the “green light” to accelerated negotiations, in the hope of agreeing terms by next Thursday’s summit. The details of Johnson’s latest suggestion to the EU are yet to emerge. The development came shortly after Donald Tusk revealed that he had set the prime minister an ultimatum of presenting new Brexit proposals by Friday or “no more chances”, but said “positive signals” were now emerging. Of course as noted above, Irish Taoiseach Leo Varadkar met with Boris Johnson yesterday and came out of the meeting indicating that he thought that it was possible for an agreement to be reached and for the UK to leave the EU on October 31. Get ready for an exciting finish to all of this. It could of course go either way. But they do appear to be negotiating now and it is in everyone's interest that a responsible, mutually acceptable withdrawal deal be reached and adopted before October 31.
In case there was any lingering uncertainty about where Labour and Jeremy Corbyn stood on the issue of a second referendum, that was eliminated apparently once and for all yesterday. Should Corbyn become Prime Minister, his first task will be to trigger a second referendum. Jeremy Corbyn: My first task as PM will be to trigger Brexit vote LABOUR would ‘immediately legislate’ to hold a second Brexit referendum if it wins the next general election, Jeremy Corbyn has confirmed. The party ‘trusts the people to decide’, its leader told an audience during a visit to Northampton yesterday. Mr Corbyn (above) said if he took power he would secure a ‘sensible’ Brexit deal that included ‘a new customs union, a close single market relationship and guarantees of rights and protections’. He added: ‘Within six months of being elected, we will put that deal to a public vote, alongside Remain.’ And let's be clear. The choices for that referendum would not be Leave or Remain this time. They would be Remain or Leave in Name only (also Remain).
Boris did a last minute U-turn and accepted that there can't be customs checks in Ireland. So the EU said ok since let's make a deal now. Why this is happening noone knows. He has prepared so much for a no deal elections campaign, he has spent millions of pounds for no deal brexit, he has made backroom deals with the DUP.. and now? He doesn't make any sense. Does he make sense to you?
Tunnel negotiations is a term coined by Brussels. It means that they will close a few senior negotiatiors from both sides in a room, without media, documents or anything to waste their time, lock them in and tell them to come out only when they can come up with something. That's how May came up with her WA. Keep in mind that her WA is 585 pages, and the only disagreements come from a single page. So it worked in the past.
