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UCLA Economists: FDR prolonged Depression by 7 years

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  1. weslinder

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    While this isn't exactly a new discovery, it's a repeat of 40 year-old findings, it is new research, and it seems that the facts have been ignored too often recently.

    http://newsroom.ucla.edu/portal/ucla/FDR-s-Policies-Prolonged-Depression-5409.aspx?RelNum=5409

     
  2. glynch

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    I have been a lifetime Libertarian Party activist, for over 25 years. ... " Periods of crisis often beget bad policies," Lee E. Ohanian, an economist at the ...
    redstate.newsonly.org/ -

    Should have known. What a surprise!!
     
  3. robbie380

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    just fyi milton friedman and anna schwartz have established this as well. don't dismiss the point of the article as just a biased garbage.
     
  4. JuanValdez

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    Interesting study and premise. I am skeptical about their ability to quantify how long the depression would have lasted without the policy, but it is suggestive.
     
  5. Rashmon

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    Second to last paragraph:

    "Recovery came only after the Department of Justice dramatically stepped enforcement of antitrust cases nearly four-fold and organized labor suffered a string of setbacks, the economists found."
     
  6. glynch

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    Yeah. Right we would be poor like Germany or Sweden if we could just get rid of those pesky unions that interfere with the labor markets.

    A lot of folks think that the massive government spending of WW II ended the Great Depression.

    BTW Milton Friedman is not exactly an unbiased non-contorversial source.
     
  7. B-Bob

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    Agree. You can't really run the experiment, can you? It would be grand if several depressions ran in parallel with different government actions, but that didn't happen.

    Even then, with so many variables, the outcomes of one system, same government actions, run 100's of times, would probably have different length depressions in each case. The more I think of that, the less I doubt it.

    rashmon, are they suggesting a positive or negative role for organized labor there? oddly phrased.
     
  8. Major

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    Good thing neither party has suggested anything like this in their proposals. I'm not sure how these lessons are being ignored today, though?
     
  9. glynch

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    The thing that doesn't make sense about the theories offered by libertarian activist economists and Friedman, who espoused the same theories, is that we have had about 60 years of recovery from recessions. Much to their dismay we have always had government action and unions, which their theories say should have created additional Great Depressions.
     
  10. The_Yoyo

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    nice read i have had cole for a class before
     
  11. Invisible Fan

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    Wasn't Greenspan a champion of libertarian ideals with a heavy leaning towards the writings of Ayn Rand?
     
  12. KingCheetah

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    I feel like I just read a 4 year old Wikipedia article.
     
  13. glynch

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    It would be interesting to see if Krugman a Nobel Economist like Friedman agrees with these conservative/ libertarian guys.
     
  14. Haymitch

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    He was in the 60s. He wrote a great essay called "Gold and Economic Freedom" (which can be found online) in which he blames the Federal Reserve for the Great Depression and makes a case for the Gold Standard.

    And then he sold out.

    And now he's filthy rich and is worshiped by all.

    As for this "new" discovery...

    This is hardly new. People (like Garet Garrett) wrote about how bad the New Deal was during it's enactment. It just created a greater misallocation of resources and made nobody better off.
     

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