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My wife was millimeters from working for this guy....

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout' started by Pole, Mar 25, 2004.

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  1. Pole

    Pole Lies, damn lies, stats, and peer reviewed studies
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    #1 Pole, Mar 25, 2004
  2. rrj_gamz

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    I saw this and that seems harsh for this type of crime...Correct me if I'm wrong, but this is more than some of the "real" criminals get...
     
    #2 rrj_gamz, Mar 25, 2004
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    WTF are you talking about? That isn't a real crime? How many Shareholders do you think were screwed over? It's this kind of attitude towards these crimes that makes me think this crap will continue to happen.
     
    #3 Oski2005, Mar 25, 2004
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    What Oski said.
     
    #4 JuanValdez, Mar 25, 2004
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    Well, considering he'll probably go to one of those white collar rowing contest vs. Yale prisons, it's not THAT bad a punishment...
     
    #5 A-Train, Mar 25, 2004
  6. Pole

    Pole Lies, damn lies, stats, and peer reviewed studies
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    What the dude did was completely wrong. He’s a smart guy; he should have at least known what was happening was wrong…..even if Anderson did literally sell them and sign off on the project.

    Then again, the deal was structured to look like cash flow.....ostensibly to improve shareholder value. Jamie didn’t personally profit from it outside of his salary and bonuses based on a shareholder value that was artificially inflated.

    The other two that were indicted…Foster and Sharkey struck plea deals and probably won’t see but a year or two. Hell, Foster was the leader of the team and Olis was lower on the totem pole.

    I’m in now way shape or form sticking up for the guy. What he did was wrong, and he should be punished. But on the other hand, I keep thinking about how he looks just like Martha Stewart…..nothing but a high profile fall guy so our government can say, “Look! We addressed the issue.” Meanwhile, his newborn will grow up without a daddy while some of the more criminal of the real criminals are walking around scott-free.
     
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    Seriously, to me a real crime is child molestation, a rapist, a murderer, heck, even that a-hole father that mutilated the female genitalia of that poor 2-year old in Georgia...

    C'mon, what he did is a crime, but on a different level and your right, S/H's lost money, but this specific event didn't cause the drop in stock price...Consumer confidence was affected by this and a whole host of uncertainty in the energy industry/Dynegy back then...

    Carry on...
     
    #7 rrj_gamz, Mar 25, 2004
  8. Batman Jones

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    Seems a bit of a backtrack to now define "real" crime to mean violent crime. What about someone who, without physically injuring a victim, steals all their money and possessions? Is that a "real" crime? And, if so, isn't it also a "real" crime to do the same to many people, whether it's done by breaking into a home or from behind a desk?

    On a side note, did anyone see the recent Hardball segment where they made their own political ads? They made positive and negative ads for Bill Frist and John Edwards. In the positive one for Bill Frist they showed a shot of Jus' Stuff while talking about his support for small business. Hilarious easter egg if you know what Jus' Stuff is. But, of course, Ken Lay wasn't a "real" criminal.
     
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  9. Oski2005

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    Good point Pole, it seems the people most responsible (Ken Lay anyone?) are getting away with it.

    There was a perfect sketch about this on Chappelle's show recently where he switched things around. A CEO who pulled an Enron was arrested forcefully, recieved poor treatment from the police, and was railroaded. At the same time, a drug dealer gets a call from the police ahead of time, is allowed to turn himself in on his own time, pleads the fifth, and gets a few months in a country club prison.
     
    #9 Oski2005, Mar 25, 2004
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    this guy should be put in a cell with the guy who is doing hard time for stealing a piece of pizza for his third strike.
    (pizza thief) so what are you in for?
    (embezzler) stealing millions of dollars and misleading shareholders

    hopefully after this the embezzler will get shanked so that the pizza thief can do real hard earned hard time.
     
    #10 plcmts17, Mar 26, 2004
  11. Batman Jones

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    Ironic as hell considering you don't consider people cheating multitudes of people out of their hard earned money a "real" crime. Keep joking, boss.
     
    #11 Batman Jones, Mar 26, 2004
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    did i miss something and rrj_gamz and plcmts17 are the same person?
     
    #12 francis 4 prez, Mar 26, 2004
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