Kos: critisize O? "Well **** You!"

Yawn. I don't always agree with kos, but I agree with everything he posted there. There are no perfect candidates and I never regarded Obama to be the Messiah, regardless of claims to the contrary by internet dorks here. He's going to disappoint me and others of his supporters sometimes. Anybody would. Regardless of any quibbles I've had with Obama though, he's still far and away the best candidate for president in my lifetime.

 

Yeah, Obama's lost a lot of luster in my eyes, but he's by and large the candidate I'll likely vote for come November. The Senator has gone hard to the center as if he's making up lost time from the primaries.

He deserves a lot of the recent criticism, and the way he's handled his campaign is almost textbook to Dubya's in style. It's still ways to go till November.

 

Dark of Knight? Hope that's your name for dailykos and not another one of your cleverly veiled black jokes.

 

Jesus Christ!

OK, I'm just walking away. I sure as hell don't need the aggravation.



Impeach Bush/Cheney.

 

Did I miss something? Do you not like Obama, or do you take issue with him being the best candidate in Batman's lifetime?

 

Refman, I am an Obama supporter. As you know, I'm also a Democrat, and someone who supported Clinton as well as Obama during the primaries. My comment has nothing to do with Obama. That's all I'm going to say.



Impeach Bush/Cheney.

 

to be fair Deck..........

Bats did say "in my lifetime"

and I'm pretty sure he is younger than me, and *I* was born in 65.

I'm just sayin.....

 

R2K, it wasn't about Jack Kennedy, either. If I said what caused me to make that post, I'd be giving myself heartburn and indigestion, at the very least. Heck, I would be tempted to delete it, but it's already been quoted. Not because it wasn't a sincere, honest post on my part, but simply because I'm attempting to stay in a relaxed D&D state of mind. Not too easy to do these days, can you believe it?



Impeach Bush/Cheney.

 

What's the problem, Deckard?

I was responding to basso's obvious calling out of me (Oski: I am the Dark Knight) by saying I never pretended he was perfect, regardless of all the posts previously directed toward me saying, "He's not The Messiah, Batman!" As though one could only choose to support or not support him based on whether or not he was The Messiah.

I never said he was perfect. I always knew I would have disagreements with him. As with anyone who would ever rise to the level of running for president.

And yet, for whatever reason, various people here of various politics kept insisting on telling me that. That, to me, is dorky.

I have no idea what Deckard's bent out of shape about. I thought we'd made up.

 

Michael Dukakis is his married to his wife's great aunt?

 

I'm glad you're saying this and IMO its the right attitude to have.

Since I think you are roughly my age, late 30's, I disagree with you on whether he is the best candidate in your lifetime but that might be the subject of another debate.

 

Whose your squad?

 

R-O-B-I-N

 

Your "quibbles" with Barack. I've rarely, if ever, seen any serious quibbles about him from you. Kos basically blasts Obama, and you "yawn." YAWN! Come on, Batman... you really don't see why that post might make some who've followed the Democratic primaries here a bit incredulous? I guess it's just me. Color me incredulous.

I'll go back into semi-hibernation now.



Impeach Bush/Cheney.

 

Wow. Deckard basically just called BJ an Obamatron drone

 

No, texxx, one thing I would never call Batman is a "drone."



Impeach Bush/Cheney.

 

This is compared to how vigorously Batman Jones defended Obama back during the primaries when anyone would dare to criticize him.

To be fair that was during the heat of the primary battle and before many of Obama supporters might've realized how much of a compromiser he was. I'm guessing BJ doesn't feel Kos criticizing him now is such a big deal when it is McCain versus Obama.

 

My original response to Batman here probably reads stronger than how I was feeling when I wrote it. The "Jesus Christ!" was actually a joke about the "Messiah" comment from Batman. Of course, no one got it, which is usually the case when I make a joke here. However, his response to the Kos column struck me as a bit absurd, given what I've read from him during that primary campaign you mentioned.

Seriously, the last thing I want to do is get into another "round robin" with Mr. Jones. (Mr. Jones reminded me of a Dylan tune! Ballad of a Thin Man... a great song)



Impeach Bush/Cheney.

 

The key here is that I'm not a drone. My opinions aren't based on party or love of candidate. It's the other way around.

I didn't criticize Obama much during the primaries because I didn't think he did much worthy of criticism. (During the primary I didn't like it when he misrepresented McCain's 100 year thing and I didn't like it when he attributed words from an article on Nafta to Hillary and kept doing it after he was corrected and I mentioned both those things here. But those were pretty minor things.) He's moving to the center some now, like general election candidates always do, and so (as a lefty) it makes perfect sense I'd find more to quibble with.

Kos did disagree with Obama a lot during the primaries. In most cases I disagreed with kos on those things.

Here though - on FISA, on moveon, on Clark (initially) - I agree with kos and disagree with Obama.

What exactly is absurd about any of that?

What would you have liked me to disagree with before?

To judoka:

It's funny that you're happy that I'm saying Obama's not The Messiah now. I said it about 10 times during the primaries and you just kept saying he wasn't too like there was any disagreement on the matter. I'm glad you finally heard me saying the same thing I've been saying all along.