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Israel Launches Ground Invasion of Gaza

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Air Langhi, Jul 17, 2014.

  1. Bobbythegreat

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    Ah, I see, your problem is that you see them as hit men instead of realizing this is a military operation in a war zone. There are numerous codes of morals or moral theories that would agree with it....perhaps you should study the subject more, it's fascinating. As to "law", so long as the civilians were warned, and they weren't the actual target, and the force used wasn't "clearly excessive" (fun subjective definitions!) to accomplish the stated goal of the attack, no law was broken and they are merely collateral damage.
     
  2. AMS

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    According to Israel’s logic, all of Gaza’s 1.8 million Palestinians are human shields for being born Palestinian in Gaza... This isn't Hunger Games. You can't go around continually collectively punishing people and keep them locked up like animals.
     
  3. AroundTheWorld

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    If Hamas had the weapons to do it, they would already have murdered all Jews in Israel. Israel would have the weapons to do it, but it doesn't intentionally target any Palestinian civilians.
     
  4. JayZ750

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    The article you provided in now way refutes the claim you quoted...?? Even the part of the article you quoted in no way goes into further detail about whom is being accused of violating international human rights law. Ms. Amos seems to have a very clear, balanced understanding of the situation, which is f'd up BY BOTH SIDES.

    There does seem to be a lot of back and forth here about "FACTS"... when no one has seemed to point to anything that actual includes 100% true facts about the UN school situation.
     
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    It won't be confirmed until IDF/Israel accepts it, which they won't (until this uproar dies down) because of the backlash. Although they are releasing more and more info implying their guilt.


    They still haven't accepted that their bombs killed the 4 kids on the beach playing soccer.
     
  6. AroundTheWorld

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    Israel needs to finish the job now. They need to eradicate Hamas' infrastructure. Anything else will leave a grave threat to Israeli civilians for years to come.
     
  7. AMS

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    If things continue the way they are, The West Bank uprising will lead to a 3rd Intifada, which we all know will lead to many many more deaths.

    It's almost as if Israel is baiting the West Bank into taking arms.
     
  8. AroundTheWorld

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    If anyone is "baiting", it has been Hamas, by indiscriminately firing rockets at Israeli civilians, by kidnapping and murdering Israelis, by digging terror tunnels, by planning a huge terror attack for the Jewish new year's celebration (as now came out), by deceiving everyone into believing they wanted peace, when all they wanted was time and resources to build more terror tunnels so they could get more terror weapons.
     
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    That would be tragically stupid of them. Hopefully they don't go that route, for their sake.
     
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    Right... so.... the facts aren't know... like I said.
    The facts which include, btw, more than just who fired the rockets/missile... but also include did Israel really tell them to evacuate days in advance, what was happening at the school right before the firing, etc.

    Specific to the school situation, those are all pertinent.

    Otherwise, it is an argument over the whole thing... a valid debate... cause once it started, this was bound to happen. This is EXACTLY what Hamas wants to happen... and EXACTLY what Israel can never prevent from happening. Once the decision is made, "we're attacking"... as many have pointed out, too many people, in too small a space, with their "elected" leaders part of a Hamas organization purposefully baiting their enemy to make these kinds of mistakes.

    Why is anyone surprised by this?
     
  11. tallanvor

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    Then what was the point of this post.

    Its not a crime. Those weapons that are being targeted are used to kill Israeli women and children. So Israel is forced to either take out those weapons aimed at their children or let them be fired at their children for the sake of protecting Palestinian children. Israel made the moral and correct choice to not put their children at risk for the sake of the children of those who put Hamas in charge. You are arguing that Israel should permit rockets to be fired at their children and that they have committed a 'horrible crime' by not doing just that..
     
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    Israel has to take out all Hamas terrorists and their whole infrastructure this time around. Don't stop too soon. But work as hard as possible to avoid civilian casualties.
     
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    Wow, can't believe so many here support the Israeli Terrorist Forces. It is clear you guys are now in the minority. Even Jews are against Israel on this. But people are so blinded by their hate of Muslims/Arabs they refuse to open their minds and accept the truth, and facts, and speak anything against Israel. As if you guys have something to gain from it.

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    What a sick demented post. You are just like bobbytheidiot who says it's ok to kill innocent children. Did the child vote for hamas? Absolutely disgusting.
     
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    Israel is a terrorist state. They want to destroy the citizens of Palestine, this is well known from what many politicians over the years have said. They want to kill every last Palestinian there is.

    Why are they targeting every single hospital? Many international doctors are present at these hospitals and they are all reporting that there is no Hamas or rockets or anything being fired from hospitals. It is obvious Israel wants to take out the only safe haven for the Palestinians and make it harder for injured children to receive the treatment they need.

    Israel is a terrorist state committing war crimes and the world is beginning to realize this. The tides are turning.
     
  16. tallanvor

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    its not ok to target children ever (Israel doesn't. Hamas does). Israel is forced with the choice to either let their children be targeted or to stop it at the expense Palestinian children. The reason Palestinian children are at risk is because the Palestinians make it so (they vote for Hamas). Of course Israel makes the right choice and of course the blood of all these children are on Palestine's hands.
     
  17. trustme

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    There was one election. 8 years ago.

    It's still disgusting how you're justifying the murder of babies.
     
  18. CometsWin

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    How does Hamas target children? How many Israeli children are dead in the last two weeks? Your whole argument is so typical of Israeli tactics and talking points. The same exact argument could be made against Israel. Your so locked into this position that you don't recognize how hypocritical and stupid it is.

    Somewhere there is your opposite claiming this...

    its not ok to target children ever (Israel does. Hamas doesn't). Hamas is forced with the choice to either let their land remain occupied and apartheid enforced or to stop it at the expense of Israeli children. The reason Israeli children are at risk is because the Israeli make it so (they vote for Likud). Of course Hamas makes the right choice and of course the blood of all these children are on Israel's hands.
     
  19. tallanvor

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    to save babies. Israeli babies. Also its not murder as the babies are not the target. the weapons are the target.

    How do you feel about England/US blowing up Dresden?

    They aim rockets at Israli schools that have no military purpose

    You argument is that because the Iron Dome is so effective that Israel should be content with their kids being targeted?
     
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    Nazi Israel will face the justice, soon.
     

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