so far, how correct was pop?

He told us what they were talking about, not what was definitely going to happen.

What everyone needs to understand is, he may have just been told a deal is done, but that deal could get dismantled immediately. It's just the natire of trade talks, they can break down for the silliest reasons at any moment.

He's just the messenger. Let's be greatful.

 

PG from the east = Charlie Ward ?

 

Pop's post was pre-JVG, right? I doubt they were looking at Ward at the time Pop posted it, as his JVG ties are what would bring him here.

SG from the East should have been Barry, but Pike works nicely too.

And he was speculating based on his inside scoop. He was not definitively stating the actions that would occur, other than we'd be bringing in vets, vets, vets. That was my understanding anyway.

 

He posted that before Rudy got canned. When he did get canned, didn't Pop say to forget everything he said before? The changing of the guard changed the whole offseason.

 

Maybe the PG from the west was Kevin Ollie, who the Rocks were supposedly after. He signed with the Cavs over us though.

The SG from the east could have been a number of guys, but I think we were pretty close to getting Spree, but whether that was a JVG part or not I don't know.

PF from the west??? I have no idea. But you never know, people are still talking all over the west and it not over yet.

 

I think you're mixing up your insiders - I think this prediction was from the MIA Doc. Unless I'm mixed up myself.

p.s. anyone heard how OP is doing?

 

nope. you're correct. Doc Rocket predicted the SG, PG from the east and PF from the west acquisitions. and he's been, well, dead wrong.

OP predicted the "mobley packing his bags and headed for pussyland" along with rice being traded this offseason. and he's been, well, dead wrong.

i still appreciate the info, though. sometimes things just don't work out.

 

so does Doc still have his connections with the staff changes? Or is OP our only inside source now?

 

Only so far. Remember, we have a lot of trading/signing time left.

 

It all depends on whether those sources were related to the former assistant coaches. If so, they are no more.

Come to think of it. Maybe we'll have a new batch of "insiders" giving scoops for us with the new coaching staff. Let's hope.

 

in a way, that's already happened. tigereye's prediction % has been, well, at 100% to my knowledge. same goes for DCballer. those two have already been right more times than DocRocket or oeilpere, as far as i know. of course, that's not a knock on Doc or pop, since they have had more opportunities to be wrong simply based on their longevity at cc.net.

 

I agree. The info is great, and a ton of fun to read and speculate on, even if things subsequently develop differently. The scoops shouldn't be viewed as prophesy, but should be recognized as hearsay information from a given snapshot in time.

 

The vet SG from the East was probably Sprewell which we were trying to get until the last hour before the big trade.

 

First of all, anyone who says these guys were "dead wrong" is mostly dead wrong. Ninety percent of the time they're conveying what's being discussed or worked on -- no one can guarantee it will actually go down and most of the time they haven't tried to do that. No one here has any reason to think Doc or pops was "wrong" when they say things were being discussed. It never ceases to amaze (and annoy) me when people try to tear down our insiders here. They don't need to post here, most of us appreciate it when they share stuff with us and the vocal minority of doubters jeopardize that.

One recent exception where our insiders WERE wrong was the Doc Rocket thread people are talking about here, in which he did say some things would definitely happen. He said Rudy was definitely safe and he bordered on saying Cat, Griffin, Moochie and Tito would definitely be gone. I think he also said we could expect Rice to be traded by summer's end. But, of course, all that was out the window once Rudy got canned (and please spare me the cover of him quitting - he didn't), and Doc said so. He also broke the Rudy story, in case anyone doesn't remember. He was wrong initially about the Rudy thing, but so was everybody else. I ran into Jim Boylen a couple weeks before it went down and he told me the whole coaching staff would definitely be back. Les changed his mind. Kind of silly to shoot the messenger.

 

Batman Jones,

you're right. they probably are the "messenger" and i have never doubted the credibility of their messages. never.

my statement was only that they were "dead wrong" about the outcome...but that is NOT their fault. i understand that. IOW, i was speaking moreso to their "ms. cleo" abilities than their "reporter" abilities. as "reporters/insiders/folx in the know" they are and have been always 100%. their "ms. cleo" abilities, though, have been hit-or-miss. no shame in that.

 

oh, and don't be so defensive.

anyone who's posted in the GARM long enough knows i've never been one to question the credibility of our "insiders". don't lump me in with the group of doubting thomases....


...and damnit, come over to the GARM more often. i know the hangout is intriguing, but your thoughts, insight, and intellect are welcome and appreciated over here as well, BJ.

 

Thanks for the kind words, verse. I didn't mean to single you out at all and didn't even scroll back up to see who'd said 'dead wrong.' It's just a pet peeve of mine when people bash or try to poke holes in DR and pops' posts. Didn't mean to say you were doing that. I enjoy your posts as well.

 

Anyone got an inside scoop about Popeye's illness?

If he comes back in full health, I think he should make a triumphant return in his old nick. Oeilpere is too annoying to spell .

*crosses his fingers*