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Rise of the Machines ;)

Discussion in 'Houston Texans' started by moomoo, Jun 11, 2003.

  1. moomoo

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    This Questec system kicks booty. Me likey.

    <img src=http://www.questec.com/q2001/images/im_pt_main1_2001b.jpg>

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    Phil Taylor pretty much sums it up here.

    A pitch for modern technology

    QuesTec can only be a good thing for baseball
    Tuesday June 03, 2003 3:58 PM


    The idea of using cameras and computers to call balls and strikes in baseball is intriguing, if only because of the possibilities it creates for variations on the standard issue umpire-heckling. "Kill the ump!" becomes "Disable his hard drive!" A blown call could prompt a fan to yell, "Hey, Blue, when's the last time you had your zoom lens checked?"

    But when it comes to umpiring by machine, it seems most pitchers and umps aren't at all amused, particularly not Curt Schilling of the Arizona Diamondbacks. Schilling was so enraged about the effect of QuesTec, a high-tech umpiring system, on one of his recent games that he bashed in the gadgetry with a bat. Unfortunately for Schilling, his actions earned him a $15,000 fine, but, on the bright side, it was one of the offensively challenged Diamondbacks' better hitting performances of the season.

    At the risk of having Schilling smash my laptop into little computer chips, it seems from this vantage point that using 21st century technology to determine balls and strikes is a perfectly logical idea. The QuesTec system itself may not be the ultimate answer -- even its manufacturers admit that it's not 100 percent accurate -- but setting up a clear, definable strike zone that doesn't depend on the judgment of the human being behind the plate is a goal worth aspiring to.

    The QuesTec system, which is being used as an experiment in 13 of the 30 major league parks this year, tracks the flight of the ball from the instant it leaves the pitcher's hand until it crosses the area of home plate. The human umps still call balls and strikes, but each of their calls is later compared to the QuesTec judgment to make sure the umpires are adhering to the machine's version of the strike zone. Umpires are graded every game on how closely their calls match those of QuesTec.

    It's easy to see why umpires object to the system -- it's like having a constant second-guesser peering over their shoulder. Umps have reportedly told players that they hate QuesTec, and that they've even gone against their own judgment sometimes in order to make the call they think the machine would make. Why exactly is that a bad thing? The computerized zone is in all likelihood more accurate and certainly more consistent than any human's, so if the umpires' judgment doesn't agree with QuesTec's, chances are it's not the machine that needs to adjust, it's the man. If baseball trusts radar guns to gauge the velocity of pitches, why shouldn't similar instruments be trusted to gauge their accuracy?

    Pitchers such as Schilling don't like QuesTec because they believe pitches that should be strikes are being called balls. But given the choice between a pitcher who's doing his best to win a game for his team and an unbiased machine that doesn't know a Diamondback from a Dodger, whose opinion would you trust? It's likely that the high-tech strike zone doesn't give the benefit of the doubt to those not-quite-on-the-corner pitches, a subtle change that can inflate a pitcher's earned run average like helium.

    We're still far from the day when a computer flashes a green light for a strike and a red light for a ball. But it won't be a cause for mourning if and when that day arrives. The simple truth is that in calling pitches, a machine can come far closer to infallibility than a human can. There will still be plenty of need for umpires to work the bases and to control the game. Besides, any ump who loses his job to a computer has a ready-made gig waiting for him -- protecting the machine from guys like Schilling.

    Sports Illustrated senior writer Phil Taylor writes about a Hot Button topic every Monday on SI.com.


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    A recent postgame photo of Curt Schilling:
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  2. PhiSlammaJamma

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    The only thing I don't understand is that each players strike zone is different. So how the does the computer know.
     
  3. RunninRaven

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    I don't know if this system is a good one or not, but I LOVE the idea of umpires having some accountability for some of their ridiculous calls and strike zones.
     
  4. Behad

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    The camera operators adjust for the heighth of each batter. But it's not the up or down zone that has pitchers complaining, it's the side to side. You knew the Braves would complain when they stopped getting 8" off the plate called a strike.
     
  5. PhiSlammaJamma

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    Seems to me like a perfect system. Why wouldn't it be used in a real game.

    The Umps are always going to miss calls. The computer isn't going to miss them ever. Done deal if you ask me.
     
  6. RocketsPimp

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    No way! However the league needs to make umps accountable for calling horrible games as well as ceasing the constant rule changes.
     
  7. francis 4 prez

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    i have a much bigger complaint with inconsistency/favoritism like Behad mentioned with the braves 8" off the plate than with bad zones. when maddux throws it 6" off the plate and gets a strike and the other pitcher throws it 2" off and is squeezed, that's wrong. now while calling everything 6" off the plate may be stupid, i can at least play along if they're all getting the same call (seeing livan hernandez get that strike nearly a foot off the plate to end the nlcs against atl in 97 was priceless). however, it would be better if there was a set strikezone and everyone got the same calls. if Questec can make this happen, then all the better i guess. plus the strike zone needs to be lengthened even more up and down and if questec makes that happen it's good. as for a machine making the calls in the future, i would never want that.

    a) many a great argument would never happen if players could only yell about balls and strikes to a machine.

    b) there's a certain thrill and excitement to a called third strike (especially to end a tense inning) when the ump punches the guy out. who wants a little red light, i want that moment to always be here, even if it's a stro getting punched out.
     
  8. PhiSlammaJamma

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    You could still have an ump making the calls. He just has to look down at his little wrist computer. Nobody would even think about it.
     
  9. Rocketman95

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    That'd be a big waste of money, wouldn't it? Of course, the umpires' union would make it a living hell for MLB to get rid of them, so who knows?
     

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