[Sporting News] For many coaches, overuse of analytics remains 'very, very dangerous'

I wonder what analytics they are using to show when analytics are being overused?

 

We are in an adjustment period right now. Analytics will continue to gain ground because they are very useful tools. Eventually there will be an equilibrium reached between number and other measures of performance. Before that happens, though, it is likely that the NBA will go through a period where analytics are overused, and used incorrectly.

 

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van gundy is not neccesarily talking about morey in that instance

infact the article quotes van gundy saying this about him and morey

way to take one thing in the article that MIGHT be a negative on morey and completely ignoring the obvious quote that shows morey isnt pushing things onto the coaches..

"Morey realized, I think, that there was some art to the job of coaching and it wasn’t just a number-based approach,” Van Gundy said. “But I found the numbers that he presented to make you really self-evaluate.

"Let’s say they brought up a scenario, and the numbers said you should obviously do something, and your philosophy was something else. It made you sit there and analyze why you believed what you believed. I think that's good. Now whether you changed your philosophy or not, that’s really secondary. But it did make you think.”

 

I have always felt he was over rated.

He has the reputation as being very bright, but his offensive and defensive sets are nothing special, and he has never really been ahead of the curb when it comes to changes in the game.

The guy is a task master, that ultimately blames his players and alienates them in short order. He couldn't get along with Jordan... or Grant Hill.... who cannot get along with Grant Hill?

 

Riley isn't old school, he is VERY much into analytics and is very innovative. He hand picked Spolstra and regularly discusses and breaks down plays.

 

The short summary of Doug Collins as a coach. Nothing else needs to be said.

 

Morey is not trying to coach the team....

Adelman is in his 70's, and is doing one HELL of a job in Minnesota. The Rockets have a philosophy and system that they want to utilize. They tried to include Adelman into that philosophy and he ridiculed it....

 

Chris Finch in conjunction with Morey is, I believe, the one who designed the overall offensive scheme of this team. A scheme so effective (defining good shots as open 3s, shots at the rim and FTs) that the youngest and least experienced team in the league last season with just one upcoming star made it into the playoffs. McHale called it "pace and space."

Our recent adjustment too of playing inside-out (since our OKC loss, we've been focusing on scoring in the paint) to mitigate our falling 3pt percentage--that's also a combination of analytics and old school.

Analytics is great but can also be wrongly applied. Morey knows which stats are important.

I'm still waiting though to see if analytics can help us solve our defensive problems

 

Sometimes, when you're an employee, you have to do things the way your boss tells you to do them. Coaches may not like it, but the historical autonomy coaches have had cannot last.

 

Or maybe Adelman got chased out because he's just not good enough?

He's done nothing in Minny with a talented roster.

 

See,this is me. I believe numbers have a place,but feel is part of it also. I remember when durvasa 1st joined,he and I always used to joust over numbers and feel. Over the years,I see some of what he see and maybe he see some of what I see. When you play basketball at a certain level,there are things you feel while playing that may not translate into numbers.

I played d-1 ball, pretty good player,but not pro worthy. We had a guy,one of my best friends to this day, was pro worthy ,just had bad knees. He actually played over seas for yrs. Anyway, a good shot for me was 18ft and in,but a good shot for him was basically 30 ft and in. I mean dude had basically unlimited range. So when I see rocket players launching 3s even though none are particulary good shooters,it bothers me. A couple of steps in off a head or shot fake would do wonders to break or start a run. That's viewed as a bad shot.

 

I like how we have been using our D-League team, the Vipers, to test out analytical theories. The analytics driven theory that the NBA in general should have a heavier use of the 3-ball and the pick and roll is something that has proven to be extremely successful for the Vipers, and personally I think that's good reason to test out the same theory on the Rockets offense. Ofcourse, the argument is that the Rockets personnel is different, and the Rockets have been shooting the 3-ball far too poorly to warrant more attempts.