Will Everyone Please Stop Calling LeBron A Superstar?

If you think Lebron isn't a superstar, you are so hilariously disconnected from reality.

 

We'll be back with more ESPN First Take right after this.

 

I don't mind anyone having their own opinion, but it's just that this particular opinion of yours is absurd.

In the final seconds, I would choose Durant. That doesn't mean he's better, he has just shown that he is pretty clutch in these playoffs. Durant is not better than Lebron at anything other than shooting. It's hard to be clutch if you're a mediocre shooter.

 

No. That means that Oklahoma City is the better team of the two. What if you switched LeBron and Durant... there is no way that OKC with LeBron would lose to Miami with Durant. And people's obsession with "clutchness" is SO DAMN OVERRATED. Statistically Carmelo Anthony is the most clutch player in the NBA right now, does that mean he's better than LeBron and Durant? Absolutely not. Clutchness, however you'd like to define it, is one very small aspect that can be used to compare players to one another, but is by no means the single deciding factor that makes a player good or not good. Like someone else said, it correlates very strongly with how good of a shooter a player is. LeBron isn't a great shooter, so his clutch shooting is not as good as Durant, who is a better shooter (although LeBron has had some very clutch moments, like the three to tie the game against Boston the other night).

I love Durant (I was a freshman at UT the same year he was), but LeBron is the far better player. Durant is a better shooter, but LeBron is a MUCH better defender, passer, rebounder, and pretty much every other aspect of his game is better as well. I think that Durant is easily the 2nd best player in the league (not sure who I would rank 3, maybe Paul or Howard or Rose), and I would love to see him and LeBron go head to head in the finals, but saying that he is better than LeBron and claiming that LeBron isn't a superstar is just silly.

 

See, even you understand that he is part of the "Greatest Player Ever Talk.

I'm pretty sure only "superstars" are part of that discussion, so thank you for finally getting it. Now can we end this most stupid thread.

 

Will you please eat the turd that comes out of my butt? It's not fully digest and still offers a wide variety of nutrition.

 

Your brief existence on Clutchfans has been filled with strange posts like these. I mean, just look at what you posted in the random trade thread a few minutes ago.

 

I almost want LeBron to win 8+ championships just so people get the point.. He is seriously really good at basketball and you are stupid if you think he isn't / hasn't been a top 3 player since 1 month into his career until today.

 

how is durant for superior to lebron??? explain please.

 

Fine, you can make a case the Durant is a better player than Lebron but that has no effect on whether or not Lebron is a superstar. Superstar is a term to describe the top players in the league and if you do not think Lebron is you need to get your head out of your ass.

 

It's strange because it's a completely idiotic proposal from the Rockets side, because there is a very good chance that anyone of those picks ends up better than Evans. Hell, Kyle Lowry alone is worth more than Evans. End of the day, they definitely say yes, and we definitely say no.

As for the second quote. Obviously you aren't smart enough to realize on your own why Lebron is arguably the best superstar in the league right now, so there's no point in trying to change your mind. Guess who else didn't make a lot of shots in the clutch? I'll give you a hint. He's one of the best players of all-time, he's 6'9, and he played PG for the Lakers. You think Magic Johnson is a superstar?

 

While I would agree with you that being clutch is certainly an aspect of being a superstar, and perhaps the only glaring flaw in Lebron's game, you make it out to be the only statistic that matters, as if the first 46 minutes didn't matter at all. I don't care if he never scores a basket in the final two minutes the rest of his career, he would still be a superstar simply because of how substantially he dominates the vast majority of the game in practically every facet. Would it tarnish his status in the conversation of the greatest ever? Absolutely. But he's still a superstar, end of story. Sure, the guy has next to no class, but you can't deny that few players have ever had his sheer ability to control every aspect of a game.

 

Show is trash, just like this thread.

 

Can't tell if trolling
I think I saw some comment about what would happen if you putt Durant on the Heat and LeBron on the Thunder? Thunder would win not 5, not 6, not 7 rings.. Id be surprised if the Heat make it to the finals more than 1 time if that was the case... Your going to see why OKC is better than the Heat in about a week, and it really has nothing to do with LeBron vs. Durant. It has more to do with Harden vs. the whole bench of the heat, and Westbrook vs. 0 point guards - not to mention home court advantage and a superior coaching advantage.

 

Kevin Martin is a super star. he gets paid almost super star pay.