http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-south-asia-13313201 If we captured Osama alive there probably wouldn't be this much of an uproar, but now it seems retaliation is imminent. If we never found Osama would al-Qaeda have stayed passive? Even though the article states they found plans for future attacks, will the future ones fueled by this renewed sense of revenge be even more devastating?
OBL supporters think their god wants us dead. They don't need some extra incentive to kill us. They will be trying just as much as they ever did.
How did you miss what I am trying to say. It blows my mind considering I used the exact same word. You said i said Thus I mean killing him is much less of an uproar than taking him alive.
He's saying there would have been a greater uproar if bin Laden had been captured than has happened since he was killed. I would tend to agree with that. Also, if he was merely captured he would be in the news cycle (here and in the Muslim world) for much longer than he will be now. I think that has greater significance to the question of whether it will cost lives.
I voted no but just thinkin about it for a minute, I would change to yes. I think the death of OBL will cause al-qaeda to try harder. Not because they're angry OBL was killed but because they will try to prove the point that killing OBL does nothing and they are still as dangerous as before. They may succeed a bit more just of out sheer attempts but ultimately they will just fade away.
why would taking him alive cause more of an uproar? by killing him we have made him a martyr. unless you are jumping to the conclusion that we would put him to death, then you're right it doesn't matter how he dies, the fact remains the same. the US killed their leader
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Will killing Osama end up costing lives? As compared to what? We can't perceive any other vector of time and space other than the one we are on. If we were in the quantum world maybe, yes, no, some, lots, none, nine.
Would the security level be up if we had not killed him? Probably not...i think it evens out, but they probably were already planning something and lives would be lost regardless.
No It might very well save thousands of lives if Obama takes the intitiative to use this as antidote to the typical conservative bs charge that he and all Dems who are not neo-conservatives are soft on defense. He should then declare victory in Aghanistan and decide to spend the estimate 2 billion per week wasted there to rebuild America-- even if that is not as immediates profitable to the US corporations as some more juicy weapons systems or private contracts to provision the troops or provide contract soldiers. If he does all this he will go down as one of the greatest American presidents instead of just a mediocre president who happened to be African American. Oh let's say worse comes to worse and the few hundred or possibly thousand folks calling themselves Al Qaeda or Bin Laden fans in the world are spurred on to have a terrorist incident or two, the lives lost there will pale in comparison to the lives of Afghans and mainly American troops spared in Afghanistan.
Maybe, but who really knows. I just hope we aren't caught off guard, we have to prepare as if something is going to happen.
I highly, HIGHLY doubt that. A political prisoner of that high a profile + a legion of people whose entire M.O. is killing people as a means to get what they want = a crapton more violence
ladies and gentlemen the next contestant on the jihad is wrong ..meet our new #1: He has been appointed within a few days of bin laden it seems. We are happy to oblige the promotion a nice little airstrike inside yemen: http://www.cnn.com/2011/WORLD/meast/05/06/yemen.drone.strike/index.html?hpt=T1 Interesting times.
