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Another moderate forced out of the Republican party

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by mc mark, Apr 29, 2010.

  1. mc mark

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    I would say there are several senate races that will be interesting to watch this november.

    Whole New Game: Crist's Likely Independent Bid Makes FL-SEN A Strange, Unpredictable Race

    Gov. Charlie Crist (R-FL) is widely expected to announce at 5 p.m. ET today that he will leave the Republican primary for Senate, and continue running for Senate as an independent. This move, which has been rumored for some time, will seriously shape a Senate race in a big perennial state, and could very well make this the most intriguing race of the year.

    A three-way race of this variety is very tough to predict, to put it mildly. Republican candidate Marco Rubio could win with an energized right wing. Crist could pull out a win from his moderate stances and personal popularity with his own base. Or Democrat Kendrick Meek could win if Crist and Rubio split the Republican vote.
     
  2. MadMax

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    get in line
     
  3. mc mark

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    I'm so happy yer back! :grin:
     
  4. geeimsobored

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    I like Crist, sucks that he got the boot.

    Gotta <3 those primaries.
     
  5. basso

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    he did not "get the boot" nor was he "forced out." he left because he knew he would lose. he'll lose the general too.
     
  6. DonnyMost

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    He done got da boot!

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  7. geeimsobored

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    Thanks for the semantics buddy. I suppose I used "boot" wrong. Perhaps I am a liar as well.
     
  8. vlaurelio

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    the FL republican primary voters gave him "the boot"
     
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  9. moestavern19

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    No room for anymore closeted gays in the Republican Party?
     
  10. SamFisher

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  11. Carl Herrera

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    Lindsey Graham still around, no?
     
  12. uolj

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    I was thinking it would be cool if he came out as he announced his plan to go independent. I figure he's not going to win anyway, why not take a stand.
     
  13. A_3PO

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    I don't think Crist has much chance to win. Maybe it throws the election to the Dem but I doubt it.

    This move speaks more about the future of the GOP than it does 2010. Barring some kind of boomerang of momentum back to Dems before November, the GOP will pick up a chunk of seats in both houses of congress. But long term, stuff like this and the Arizona immigration issue will set them back huge.

    I'm probably on an island feeling this way, but this is my current opinion: It's getting to the point that the pressure will really be on the GOP to annihilate the Dems this November. Anything less will be a big disappointment. For 2012 onward, it ain't looking pretty.
     
  14. moestavern19

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    Will life look different to Charlie Crist now?
    Freed from the Republican Party, he has a chance to reassess the way he sees the world -- and himself


    http://www.salon.com/news/opinion/feature/2010/04/29/charlie_crist_new_life_independent

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    Once the fair-haired boy of the Republican Party, Charlie Crist is suddenly running as an independent in Florida's U.S. Senate race. Crist's decision was based on recent polls showing that a break with Republicans offered him his only shot at victory. But he's still in an almost impossible position, without any major GOP backing and with Democrats likely to shy away from him for fear of hurting their own candidate, Kendrick Meek.

    Dick Cheney recently turned off the life support on Crist's campaign by endorsing Marco Rubio, the conservative Cuban-American (and Jeb Bush protégé) who -- at least until Thursday -- was Crist's GOP primary opponent. Rudy Giuliani joined the pile-on. Only former presidential standard bearer John McCain -- falling fast in polls for his own Senate race in Arizona -- stayed on Crist's sinking ship. And now even McCain has rejected Crist, saying he only supports Republicans.

    One wonders why Crist ever became a Republican in the first place. He's always been more flexible, less shrill and more compromising than most in the GOP. Crist opposes offshore drilling, has expanded Florida's health coverage for the poor, and was the first Florida governor to accept an invitation to the Florida NAACP's annual meeting -- some even called him "Florida's first black governor." With Barack Obama running strong at the start of his presidency, Crist threw caution to the wind and literally embraced the Democratic president. (Crist also praised and accepted huge amounts of Obama's stimulus money for his financially devastated Florida.)

    But the governor is no liberal. He supports abortion restrictions, encourages easy access to guns, and opposes any changes to the "Don't ask, don't tell" regulation for gays in the military. And he opposed gay marriage (although he has said that Republicans should focus their energy on other issues).

    The endless speculation that Crist himself might be gay may be another reason he never really settled into a lofty perch in the GOP. The rumors have been around for years and have only grown louder as Crist's presence on the political stage has increased, with last year's release of "Outrage," a documentary film that explored the Crist chatter in detail, further stoking speculation.

    Crist's camp has ignored these matters, as has most of the mainstream media. So a cloud lingers and raises questions -- not about Crist's orientation but about his "honesty," or that of any candidate suspected of living a double life. Maybe he is gay, and maybe he isn't. If he is, this might be a good moment for him to look around and realize how much the world has changed since he entered politics.

    Polls show most voters, appropriately, care little about a candidate's sexuality. Like me, they support the full participation of qualified gay and lesbian citizens in government -- or in any field they choose. Most voters also support gays serving openly in the military, and a growing number support marriage equality. Many are also saddened by the closeted lives gay individuals often feel they must lead.

    Of course, there is far less support for gay rights in the narrow world of Republican politics -- Charlie Crist's world, at least until this week. So now that he's running outside of the Republican tent, might he try to clear up the rumors that continue to dog him and maybe even clarify his position on gay rights issues?

    Members of Congress like Barney Frank, D-Mass., Jared Polis, D-Colo., and Tammy Baldwin, D-Wis., have proven that openly gay candidates can be elected. At the more competitive statewide level, there's never been an openly gay candidate elected to the U.S. Senate (although there's certainly been plenty of suspicion about some senators, like Larry Craig). Meanwhile, serially unfaithful spouses and fathers like Bill Clinton and Rudy Giuliani routinely advance to "statesman" status despite their libertine ways.

    In an ideal world, of course, both parties' tents would be large enough to welcome those stuck in the closet, or those who have humanly stumbled on the heterosexual road of marital fidelity -- both as party members and elected leaders. (In Europe, for example, the sexual issues that paralyze many U.S. politicians and military leaders are considered irrelevant.)

    Otherwise, we'll just have to wait for America's political system to mature enough to accept the reality of consensual sex between adults of any gender. Then, the painful dilemma forced on worthy candidates might simply go away.
     
  15. Rocketman95

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    rick perry?
     
  16. GladiatoRowdy

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    I second that, MadMax has been missed!
     
  17. basso

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    that would be funny, if of course, "boot" in german actually meant the same thing in english.

    or perhaps you meant to say, Crist is going down, as it were?
     
  18. SamFisher

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    Wait, you mean Das Boot isn't a movie about footwear? Holy ****, that explains a lot! :eek:
     
  19. weslinder

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    Headline should read, "Another fiscally irresponsible theocrat quits the Republican Party".
     
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