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Will any Rocket be efficient enough to accomplish each of the following this season?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Bob Sacamano, Oct 21, 2009.

  1. Bob Sacamano

    Bob Sacamano Member

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    Not just one or two or three of the following, EACH of the following:

    1) Average at least 1.19 points per field goal attempt
    2) Average fewer than 0.9 turnovers per game
    3) Post a positive plus/minus per 100 possessions
    4) Score at least 9.7 points per game

    Bit of background info: Nobody on this roster has ever hit all 4 of those targets in one (NBA) season, except for Battier, who hasn't done it since 06/07.
     
  2. caneks

    caneks Rookie

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    where did you get those numbers for 1, 2 and 4?
     
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    napalm06 Huge Flopping Fan

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    My suggestions would be Landry and Lowry. I think one of them could potentially crack 1, 3, and 4, although 2 will be the hard one, considering how our team has looked in execution so far.
     
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    how about a list of players that actually did this last year? highly doubt this will happen on our team, with so many new components.
     
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    Landry's a good guess on our team. Budinger might well be on the list.

    Lowry's a point, and will have too many turnovers.
     
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    My guess would be Battier even though he will be more featured on offense.
     
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    that's almost a category built for shane, right?

    for #1, you can 1.19 ppFGA only through high% 3pointer or high volume FTA - that basically rules out landry or any of our big.

    for #2, that rules out our pgs or anyone that touches the ball often

    for #3, that basically chase buddinger is out since he is the backup AND will understandably struggle in defence to have a positive +/- at this point

    that leaves... ugh... battier and ariza. and I don't think ariza is a good enough 3pt shooter (or attracts enough FTA for that matter) to be a part of this.

    so... we are basically asking: will shane be able to reach those 4 this season?

    and no, I don't think shane reaches #1 and #2.
     
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    Battier and Budinger probably have the best shot at it, in that order.
     
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    Someone that score at least 9.7 points with less than 0.9 turnovers?
    I really wonder how many in the NBA did that last season in that 2 criteria alone.
    After a quick check at http://www.basketball-reference.com,
    Only 6 players achieve it. Arenas, Butler, Marrow, Peja, Fisher and R.Wallace. Remove Arenas who only played 2 games. That leaves 5 players in the entire NBA, and all 5 are purely shooters that did pretty much nothing else. So I really wonder why you want to have a player like that to play for the Rox.
     
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    I don't understand the point of this...does satisfying those requirements make them a good player?
     
  11. Bob Sacamano

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    Just to clarify something, I meant to say "0.9 turnovers or fewer" instead of "less than 0.9 turnovers". That doesn't really change anything, but I wanted to clarify that.
     
  12. Bob Sacamano

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    Not necessarily, but IMO it would make them a decent player at the very least. I'd love to have a young player on a cheap contract who could score with that combination of efficiency and volume, while putting up positive plus/minus numbers.
     
  13. Bob Sacamano

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    You know, I seem to remember at least one NBA player doing it, but I just can't quite recall who it was...
     
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    0 rockets achieve this we miss the playoffs completely.
    1 rocket achieves this and we sniff the playoffs but miss
    2 rockets achieve this we sneak into the playoffs
    3 rockets achieve this and we are a media sensation and advance in the playoffs
     
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    How does Marrow, R.Butler, Peja, Fisher and R.Wallace fit that bill?
     
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    Well...Butler, Peja, Fisher, and Sheed definitely don't fit the bill. They're all old/expensive/both, and none of them managed to average 1.19 points per shot anyway. Morrow would fit the bill, except I can't imagine Golden State's all that eager to trade him. So even though his contract is tiny, he might not necessarily be that "cheap". If he was a free agent, it'd be a different story.
     
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    I guarantee you Battier gets three out of the four there. The turnovers part will be hard to accomplish, since if you didn't notice he's been handling the ball a significant portion of the time when he's in the game now, esp bringing the ball up the court.
     
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    I wish there had been a, and I know I should probably move on, way for us to get a shooting guard with that kind of efficiency/production this offseason. Was there a way for us to do that?
     
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    Its not considered a turnover if you brick it off the backboard.
     
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    There similar players who do the same thing to be effective i guess.

    That is not an easy task for anybody to achieve especially all 4.

    I don't think anybody can achieve those 4 this season, but i think if they play to their game without being asked to do much more then Battier, Budinger and Ariza could make that list.
     

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