Documents confirm U.S. hid detainees from Red Cross

dispense withe the rhetorics, what exactly do u mean ?

 

Sarcasm. Thick, heavy, and oh-so-painful sarcasm.

 

Democratic 105 yeas 128 nays 3 nv
Republican 188 yeas 1 nays 10 nv

TOTALS 293 yea 129 nay 13 nv

Interestingly, Ron Paul did not vote.

I am displeased and angry with the democrats. I am horrified at the republican position.

 

Ron Paul voted against it, I would bet the farm on it.

EDIT: No vote, I guess I just lost that fictitious farm!

 

FAIL. More's the pity.

 

the difference between the two parties is that the dems pretend to care.

 

i'm too lazy to google this, but I think I remember hearing that a lot of these wire taps were pre 9-11


edit: link to one report

 

^^^^^^^Nailed it.

"He that would make his own liberty secure must guard even his enemy from oppression; for if he violates this duty he establishes a precedent that will reach to himself."
--Thomas Paine

 

Don't go overboard. Many care. 128 cared enough to vote against this. I won't pretend that it doesn't upset me, though. It would be interesting to see who gets what for their campaign coffers from the telecoms.



Impeach Bush.

 

I'm in the water.

 

I don't think it's overboard at all for Democrats to share the blame. Don't forget that this whole FISA mess came from Jimmy Carter. It's a little worse now, but the horrible parts of it (secret courts, ex post facto warrants) can be fully credited to Jimmy Carter and a Democratic Congress.

 

I didn't mean to imply that they shouldn't share the blame. Just to not paint with too broad a brush.



Impeach Bush.

 

Very disappointing

Obama supporting FISA compromise.

http://tpmelectioncentral.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/06/obama_backing_fisa_compromise.php

 

From the same link...

I'm not sure what's going on here... Bush has politicized the IG offices, so nothing is coming from that under this administration... I do like his statement about immunity, but it remains to be seen if he'll put his heft behind it.

 

Other than my own county Republican Party, I rarely give to Parties or PACs beyond what is needed for participation in events. (Please don't tell the people I contact asking for money for Republican Liberty Caucus.) I'd much rather give to candidates. And while I prefer those who support real limited government, I'm not above giving to Democrats that make a stand for personal liberty. If Hoyer, Liebermann, or Dodd (new detestable credit card transaction reporting bill) have legitimate primary challengers, I'll donate to them.

 

*Lieberman lost his primary and ran as an independent.

 

A Democrat who will get a few bucks from me, regardless of whether he can win, because he's right and he's running against Lindsay Graham:

Bob Conley