What's so bad about Hayes as our PF?

morpheus133 · Jul 24, 2007

RedRaiderRocket said:

Like semi quote from our old coach who I still sort of miss, those who have a problem with Chuck Hayes, have a problem. Chuck Hayes is not as big of an offensive liability as many people mention, does he have a jump shot nope, can he shoot free throws, but there is a reason why he doesn't stand around 15+ feet from the basket unless he is there setting a screen he is always under the basket, which complements his strengths. It would be one thing if teams had the options to force 15 footers but our offense is too good for that, and the ball does not need to be in his hands for Chuckie to be effective, isn't that what we need most on this team now more than ever, with the likes of Mike James, Steve Francis, Tracy McGrady, Yao Ming, and Bonzi Wells? If teams are dumb enough to cheat off and go double up off of Chuck Hayes he is always cutting the lane or setting an off screen to free up either himself under the basket or an open perimeter shooter. Now with all that said if there is a chance to upgrade the team shouldn't hesitate. By the way those who say Chuck Hayes is a foul trouble, there is a strong reason for that, that is to keep Yao from doing that. Chuck Hayes was one of our most reliable guys on our team in the playoffs. Keep Chuck!
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Oh they should defintely keep Chuck, and he should get solid rotation minutes. It's just that they should be from the bench unless Scola turns out to be a total bust. Our PF needs to have a midrange game or his man just doubles Yao and clogs the lane. Chuck has been more than we could have hoped for in an undrafted free agent, but I doubt there is a play off team in the league we could match up with where it would be considered advantage Hayes.

SuperMarioBro · Jul 24, 2007

I haven't really read through most of this thread, but I don't think people dislike Hayes. It's just that he's questionable starter material.

He's fantastic off the bench, though. I LOVE the potential of a Scola/Hayes rotation.

EGYPT · Jul 24, 2007

Hayes is a foul machine and does ok against mediocre teams, but will struggle against the good teams with good C/PF.

Rover16 · Jul 24, 2007

No one is saying hayes sucks, just that he isn't token material. In the lakers game when hayes fouled out, the lakers commentators said, it's no big loss cause hayes is a token starter anyways.

Rover16 · Jul 24, 2007

Rover16 said:

No one is saying hayes sucks, just that he isn't token material. In the lakers game when hayes fouled out, the lakers commentators said, it's no big loss cause hayes is a token starter anyways.
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Err damn no edit. just that he isn't starter material I mean to say.

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