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[Religion] Prophet Warren Jeffs

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by No Worries, May 17, 2006.

  1. No Worries

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    Just gotta like god's prophets getting their gay on ...

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    Polygamist on the Lam

    A sect leader lands on the FBI's Most Wanted list.

    By Andrew Murr
    Newsweek
    May 22, 2006 issue - Warren Jeffs is a prophet without honor in the eyes of the Feds: leader of a polygamist offshoot of Mormonism (the church banned polygamy in 1890), he has now made the FBI's Ten Most Wanted list. Missing from public view for two years, Jeffs has failed to answer state criminal charges stemming from marriages he allegedly performed between teenage girls and older men. As a result, the FBI has included him in the ranks of alleged murderers, mobsters—and Osama bin Laden.

    Jeffs's sect, the 10,000-member Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints (FLDS), isn't recognized by the Mormon Church. Until recently, law enforcement largely ignored polygamous groups like the FLDS. But now it is going after them for an assortment of alleged sexual and financial abuses. Last June, Jeffs was charged in Mohave County, Ariz., with a felony count of "sexual conduct with a minor" and a related conspiracy charge for his part in officiating a "celestial marriage" between a 16-year-old girl and a polygamous 28-year-old man. In April, Jeffs was charged in Washington County, Utah, with two felony counts of "rape as an accomplice," for allegedly performing another marriage that led to illegal sex between an underage girl and an older man. Jeffs hasn't responded to charges in either case, says Rodney Parker, a Salt Lake City attorney who has previously represented him and his church.

    Officials think the prophet may be floating between safe houses at properties the sect owns throughout the West, as well as in Canada and Mexico. The last sure sighting came in April 2005, when Jeffs was photographed at the dedication of a new church compound in Eldorado, Texas. Arizona Attorney General Terry Goddard hopes the FBI listing, made on May 6, will "raise the urgency level" to find him. Jeffs disappeared from his church's desert enclave, which straddles the Utah-Arizona border, about the time his nephew Brent Jeffs filed a civil suit claiming his uncle repeatedly sodomized him in the late 1980s and allowed others to participate. "He said that it was helping me become a man, and it was God's will," Brent Jeffs, now 23, tells NEWSWEEK. "He said, 'If you don't do exactly what I say you will burn in hell'." According to Parker, Jeffs hasn't responded to his nephew's suit, filed two years ago in Salt Lake City.

    Jeffs may be in hiding, but investigators think he still has great influence over his followers. Last month his brother Seth Jeffs pleaded guilty in federal court in Denver to one count of harboring or concealing a person from arrest—his brother. That case stemmed from a traffic stop last October near Pueblo, Colo., where Seth Jeffs and a man named Nathaniel Allred were found in a Ford Excursion with $142,000 in cash, seven prepaid cell phones and a collection jar decorated with Warren Jeffs's photo and a sign reading pennies for the prophet. Seth Jeffs, who'll be sentenced in July, refused to tell investigators anything about his brother's whereabouts. An FBI spokeswoman says the agency has received about 150 tips since Jeffs made the Ten Most Wanted list—thanks, no doubt, to a new $100,000 reward. For the person who finds the prophet, that's an awful lot of pennies.
     
  2. No Worries

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    The morale of the story for all you polyghamists out there is that you can have all of the incestuous, pedophiliac, and/or polygamistic opposite-sex sex you want and you will never land on the top ten most wanted. Get your gay on; well that's another story.
     
  3. moestavern19

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    so you're suggesting that if he had sodomized his niece he wouldn't be considered for the top 10?


    The moral of the story here is that this civil suit was the tip of the iceberg that pushed this douche up into the ranks of the biggest scum in the world and you're trying to cook it up as some government agenda against the homoseckz.

    good job.
     
  4. Grizzled

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    This guy may well be hiding out in Canada, btw. There was a related group that moved into a fairly remote area of the interior of BC and Jeffs is thought to still have some friends there.
    http://www.cbc.ca/fifth/bustupinbountiful/
     
  5. No Worries

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    First of all quoting Jimmy Buffett

    I got a native tongue from way down south
    It sits in the cheek of my gulf coastal mouth


    I have not been completely serious in my repsonses to this thread :)

    but ...

    There are stories that have appeared on this very D&D stating that local FBI offices have been told to make illegal p*rnography their job #1. If true, this is quite some pushdown from GWB of the social conservative agenda, which includes btw kicking gays to the curb.
     
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    I was on a fire near Colorado City once. We drove through the town and were obviously picked up at the city limits and followed. We stopped at a little store and as soon as we went in, guys appeared out of nowhere. The female cashiers wouldn't look at us or talk to us as the men stood behind them. After leaving the store, we were followed until we were out of town. Creeeeepy.
     
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    "Not creepy at all. Next question."
     
  8. wnes

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    rim, I don't know if you have watched a 1975 horror movie called 'Race with the Devil.' What you said in your post reminds me of the creepiness in that movie. Incidentally, it was also about a trip to Colorado.
     
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    "Mmmmm, Warren. I hope he comes in from the cold and lets me warm him up."
     
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    Can't say I caught that one... I'll look for it.

    By the way, Colorado City is in AZ, about 30 miles SE of Hurricane, UT and right across the Utah stateline from Hildale, which is essentially the same town. This allows them to run across the stateline when the law comes down. It is literally in the middle of nowhere and it's not some place you drive through on the way to somewhere else.
     
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  12. wnes

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    You sure about that?

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    Go check it out. It's a good movie IMO. Not much gory stuff you see in typical horror films, but awesomely creepy. I saw it on Cinemax in one late night/early morning near the end of 2004. Not sure any video store still carries it.

    I think I may have driven through that part of area years ago on my way to the Bryce Canyon after visiting the Grand Canyon. The good thing is that it was under bright sun light and I didn't stop for gas, water or food.
     
  13. Sishir Chang

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    I'm wondering if the premiere of Big Love has had anything to do with moving Warren Jeffs up on the Most Wanted List.
     
  14. RocketMan Tex

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    "I don't know anything about that show, except wife #1's boobies are about this big. We videoanalyzed them at our secret laboratory in Provo Utah. Next question."
     

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