What do you guys think about the crop of high school players selected in the 2nd round? I think it is sad in a way, these kids probably have all sorts of people convincing them that they will or should be first rounders and these kids probably think the same thing then end up going to teams in the 2nd round when they would've been better off going to college and improving their all-around game. Now most, if not all of them have signed agents and are no longer eligible to play college ball anywhere. On the other hand it could be a positive, it might make kids think twice before coming out early and actually thinking about heading to school to improve their game and gain an education just in case the basketball thing doesn't work out but I don't know how it will affect the high school players seeing an age limit of 19 is coming in next year but of course there are those who are 19 and still in high school.
I read on ESPN that if you're drafted in the 2nd Round and didn't sign w/ an agent, you are eligible for college play. CJ Miles!! But Ellis, Miles, and Blatche definitely should have gone to college in the 1st place.
Might have been a sign of the owners/GMs siding with Stern in his desire to push back the legal age of draft entrees? If each year, only a couple of high school kids go in the first round, and the whole lot go in the second round, it will start scaring kids into going to college.. and staying there until they put up numbers worthy of a 1st rounder..
- I really don't think all of them were guaranteed to be picked in the first round, I wouldn't be surprised if a couple were ok with being picked in the second. - Bilas is on crack if he thinks every player drafted in the second round would of worked themselves into first round picks had they gone or stayed in college a little while longer. - Daniel Ewing, Lawrence Roberts, Ryan Gomes, Bracey Wright and maybe Salim Stoudamire had better chances of getting drafted in the first round had they left school early. - With bigger rosters and the NBDL these dudes will be playing basketball for a living no matter what, I think that because of the new rules in the new CBA some of those guys were ok with slipping because making the NBA is much easier, even if it is just the NBA minor league, at least they're not playing in the no pay minor league NCAA. - Amir Johnson didn't qualify for college b-ball, bad grades, but he got picked anyway.
Yeah I heard them say that CJ Miles could still go to college but his rights still belong to the team which drafted him. I agree Donny that NBA owners and/or GM's looking at the age, quality, and skill of the high school players and agreeing with Stern on some type of age limit.
I think it works out fine for them. Getting picked in the second round, they're still likely to get some kind of contract that will pay them a couple hundred thousand dollars. If they don't make it in the NBA, they can still hone their skills in Europe or the NBDL, and possibly come back. And, if they can't make it as players at all, they can use the money they earned in trying to pay for college outright. Seems like an all-around win to me.
http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/ssistory.mpl/sports/bk/bkn/3247110 From the article, it doesn't sound like too bad a deal. Miles fell short of the 1st round so he doesn't automatically get a guaranteed contract, but he has a little leverage: guarantee me or I'll go to college. The Jazz may prefer that, but that's be fine. He'd go to college and can play college ball and talk to the Jazz each offseason about going pro. The only drawback he's got is that he's committed to the Jazz now and won't have the surety of getting a 1st round slotted position. But, he can play out a pretty short rookie contract and then get a pretty big raise if he deserves one.
Well, the only thing he has going for him is that he's a shooting guard, and that's a position at which the Jazz don't have any depth. He might as well stick around. If he doesn't make the team, he'll still make more money in the NBDL than in college...
Actually Will college be . . . like Europe is for the Euros? I mean look at BAdiane . .. We sent him to Europe for 'seasoning' Will we draft . . FOR THE FUTURE then SEND the kid to college for 'SEASONING' QUESTION: What will the NCAA say about . . . let's say THE JAZZ pick someone. . . . but don't think he ready tell him . . . u need to goto college .. . We will give you a 'SCHOLARSHIP' until we think u ready Basically. . the Jazz can send their player to. . uhm . . University of UTAH for seasoning .. . pay his whole way plus maybe a stipend. . . and the U of Utah . . saves on a scholarship Rocket River then . . maybe even have college teams affiliated with various teams *grin* this could get fun . . .
NBDL. The drafted players do not have to count on the rosters, yet can develope for the teams. Talk about unintended consequences.
I don't see how there's any incentive at all for Miles to go to Texas now. He's already been drafted by the NBA. Why play at Texas if you've already been drafted? It would be pointless. Kids play college basketball to get drafted by the NBA - he's already accomplished this and can't improve his position any further.
The key to it all is, if he stays with Utah and is later cut, he's ****ed. I'd talk to the Jazz before hiring an agent to negotiate, and really think hard about going to Texas. Evan
He can try to utilize UT as a bargaining chip witgh Jazz. Only problem is that Jazz hold his rights thru one year post-college eligibility. But, does that mean if CJM signed with an agent today but not with the Jazz he'd be a free agent in 366 days? (Signing ends his eligibility, hmmm.)
Typically, second round contracts are not guaranteed. As I understand it he would have to sign with Utah before he could sign with another NBA club, so he could go to Texas prove himself better and get a guaranteed contract for the following season. That would be better.
