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The Most Corrupt Self-Enrichment Scheme in U.S. Presidential History,

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by deb4rockets, May 5, 2025.

  1. astros123

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    I can't believe we're doing this **** again. Nothing in that report shows Biden ever received a dollar from any of his family that he didn't loan out. Show us what favors biden did on behalf of Hunter or his family. This is why house Republicans didn't have the votes to impeach Biden but instead release a bogus report that they knew his braindead cult would eat up like yourself.

    Show us evidence where Biden got money from anyone. Show us.
    Don't link us to bogus to report written by partisan republicans. The head of the FBI in 2020 was a Republican appointed by Trump who determined there was nothing there.

    I sincerely cant believe you cultists are doing this hunter biden bullshit while Trump is openly being bribed by his scam crypto coin. What a low iq cult
     
  2. El_Conquistador

    El_Conquistador King of the D&D, The Legend, #1 Ranking

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    So you are trying to play word games to say that since Hunter Biden didn't give money to Joe Biden, that no corruption occurred. That's a very weak argument and a total dodge. Were you hoping I wouldn't call you out on it, and that the gullible amongst your side would think you had a valid argument? Sorry, that's not happening.

    Two points:

    1) What do you think happens when Joe Biden dies? Where does his money go? Likely to his wife + children. Hunter has no reason to give it to Joe, only to have it circle back to him upon death. Ends up in the same place.

    2) Hunter Biden is stupid, but he's not stupid enough to simply hand over the money to his dad. It will take more indirect paths. This is called money laundering. Here's an example of how money was laundered to Joe (since you asked).

    https://oversight.house.gov/release/comer-reveals-how-joe-biden-received-laundered-china-money/

    WASHINGTON—House Committee on Oversight and Accountability Chairman James Comer (R-Ky.) today released a video and bank records memorandum revealing how Joe Biden received $40,000 in laundered China money from the account of his brother, James Biden, and his sister-in-law, Sara Biden, in the form of a personal check.

    The money trail begins in July 2017 when Hunter Biden demanded payment from his Chinese Communist Party (CCP) linked associate. On July 30, 2017, Hunter Biden sent a message to Raymond Zhao—a CEFC associate—demanding a $10 million dollar capital payment and claimed his father, Joe Biden, was sitting in the room. CEFC is a Chinese energy company linked to the CCP. The Bidens began working with CEFC when Joe Biden was Vice President.

    On August 8, 2017, Northern International Capital, a Chinese company affiliated with CEFC, sent $5 million to Hudson West III, a joint venture established by Hunter Biden and CEFC associate Gongwen Dong. That same day, Hudson West III sent $400,000 to Owasco, P.C., an entity owned and controlled by Hunter Biden. On August 14, 2017, Hunter Biden wired $150,000 to Lion Hall Group, a company owned by President Biden’s brother James and sister-in-law Sara Biden. On August 28, 2017, Sara Biden withdrew $50,000 in cash from Lion Hall Group. Later the same day, she deposited it into her and James Biden’s personal checking account. On September 3, 2017, Sara Biden cut a check to Joe Biden for $40,000 for a “loan repayment.”

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    You just got WORKED, friend.


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  3. astros123

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    Jesus christ youre a dipshit. The check that you attached literally says loan payment on the check. When Republicans subpoenaed the bank they found proof that the money was indeed loaned out and the accountant properly recorded the transaction on his tax returns.

    Hunter Biden is grifting loser just like Jared and Don Jr. I don't give a **** if Don Jr or Hunter make money off their parents. What i have a issue with is when favors are traded on behalf of donations. What i have a issue is when Arabs purchase millions of dollars of fake Trump crypto coins and suddenly there's a concession afterwards





    Corporations and foreign countries are bribing Trump DIRECTLY in exchange for concessions. This wasn't happening under Biden you cultist
     
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  4. El_Conquistador

    El_Conquistador King of the D&D, The Legend, #1 Ranking

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    LOL, "it says "loan" so it must be a loan!". What a naive argument by you. One of the worst arguments I've read in quite some time -- and I've read a lot of bad arguments by low level dunces around here.

    Quid pro Joe demanded that Ukraine fire the prosecutor looking into Hunter Biden's corruption with Burisma. Unless you believe Hunter Biden is an international energy expert... then that was corruption. In exchange for this act, Biden provided loan guarantees to Ukraine. The ultimate quid pro quo... by Quid Pro Joe.

    Meanwhile Trump is CUTTING foreign aid dramatically. That's a very odd way of rewarding "donors", huh? He's definitely not giving Iran a BILLION DOLLARS in cash, like Obama/Biden did. Your argument just doesn't add up. Illogical and factually false.

    You are getting WORKED, friend. In fairness, defending Biden's integrity is a really hard position to argue.



    GOOD DAY
     
  5. astros123

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    Is this seriously the best you have? Repeating the same garbage that's already been debunked. Republicans in congress demanded that the Ukrainian prosecutor be fired ( https://www.axios.com/2019/10/03/republicans-ukraine-reform-prosecutors-office-biden ) . Ron Johnson the MAGA senator from Wisconsin led the effort to have the prosecutor fired.

    The loan repayment check you attached was verified by Congress to have been a loan which is why House Republicans didn't have the votes to impeach Biden.

    Trump has given the Saudis the geeenlight to have the Liv/PGA go through which was being blocked by Biden. He's removed export restrictions on chips being sent to UAE which is then sending them to China. This is literally quid pro quo.

    Seriously get some new material bcz slapping you around is getting boring. You dont even entertain me with your conspiracies cuz theyre so easily debunked. You have shown ZERO quid pro quo done by the Biden admin in any way. You once again got your ass embarrassed by trying to debate me.
     
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    From what I've read, Trump's sons have been busy traveling and make deals with foreign companies anxious to get on the president's good side.

    In the end, Trump's tariff stunts may really be about creating an atmosphere of chaos that makes countries feel threatened, so that his family's and his cronies' businesses can swoop in and find ways to profit.

    And the "beauty" of it is, Trump's supporters will continue to defend him and his sons as being good businessmen.

    The grift is on.
     
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    This time he's funneling everything through his crypto scam. The vesting period was up for investors so trump announced top holders of coin get vip tour of white house and the coin pumps the same time the vesting period is over. It's all one huge con but it's coming from the WH.

    Its just insane what's happening and his cult eat it up @El_Conquistador
     
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  8. deb4rockets

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    As the opinion in the article below states, "The cryptocurrency industry is perhaps the starkest example of the culture of corruption in his second term. He and his relatives directly benefit from the sale of their cryptocurrency by receiving a cut of the investment."

    Look at what he's done since the Trump family started their own crypto business. He has not only jumped on the crypto train, but has opened his arms to accept crypto donations and investments for personal, business, and political favors, both at home and abroad. He's also doing his best to make crypto crimes easier to get away with.

    Not only that, Trump put die-hard loyalists as his Attorney General and head of FBI. Both have lied for him in the past, and are certainly willing to stop any investigations into anything illegal Trump is doing. Add in his Supreme Court loyalist majority and he's never had it easier to get away with crimes and corruption. The grift is on steroids now, between the crypto business, and all the proposed new Trump real estate investments and golf resorts around the world.

    This is just a portion of the article....

    Opinion | A Comprehensive Accounting of Trump’s Culture of Corruption - The New York Times

    Only a few years ago, Mr. Trump was deeply skeptical of cryptocurrency, calling it “potentially a disaster waiting to happen” and comparing it to the “drug trade and other illegal activity.” Since he and his family have become major players in the market, however, his concerns have evidently disappeared.

    The cryptocurrency industry is perhaps the starkest example of the culture of corruption in his second term. He and his relatives directly benefit from the sale of their cryptocurrency by receiving a cut of the investment.

    He shut down a Justice Department team that investigated illegal uses of cryptocurrency.

    He pardoned crypto executives who pleaded guilty to crimes, and his administration dropped federal investigations of crypto companies.

    He nullified an Internal Revenue Service rule that went after crypto users who didn’t pay their taxes.

    Even if the price of the coins later falls and investors lose money, the Trumps can continue to benefit by receiving a commission on future sales. Forbes magazine estimates that he made about $1 billion in cryptocurrency in the past nine months, about one-sixth of his net worth.

    https://share.google/jFr32VJ6uz2VGWc8K
     
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  9. deb4rockets

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    I only included the summary, but all the specific and the Trump family crypto empire are in the article link.

    Watchdog: Here’s How House Republicans’ Crypto Bills Bolster Trump’s Business Empire While Putting American Interests At Risk

    July 16, 2025

    “The so-called GENIUS and CLARITY Acts ironically do nothing to lift the cloak of mystery and unaccountability that shrouds the Trump family crypto interests around the world, leaving American interests at high risk,” said Accountable.US Executive Director Tony Carrk.

    “The President has already demonstrated he’ll seemingly take money from anyone, even possible criminal elements and foreign adversaries. So to pass a bill that lets Trump to enrich himself from deeper in the shadows is a recipe for American workers getting sold out to the highest bidder. The real clarity we have about this President is he fights to give his billionaire buddies a tax break and profit from his office while betraying the working Americans he claims to represent.”

    President Trump’s Ever-Expanding Crypto Ventures With Foreign Special Interests Cry for More Oversight and Accountability from Congress: For months, Accountable.US has continued to document how the sprawling Trump family crypto dealings open the floodgates for foreign and corporate influence while setting the stage for self-dealing and administration favors to wealthy special interests that could come at the expense of American working people and our national security. With the President announcing new deals seemingly every week rather than fully divesting from his crypto interests, a key question has gone unanswered: ‘Who won’t Trump take money from?’

    https://accountable.us/watchdog-her...ire-while-putting-american-interests-at-risk/
     
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  10. CrixusTheUndefeatedGaul

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    You are without a doubt the ultimate dipshit moron in the D&D. The fact that you’re still peddling and defending anything Biden related showed us what a liar that you are or a complete moron with room temperature for IQs. Nobody in here is buying your Biden bullshiit anymore. Stop sniffing that demented brain dead Biden’s bunghole, the noxious smell is destroying your braincells.
     
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    How much money do people with one foot in the grave need?

    Rocket River
     
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    Most Definitely

    Rocket River
     
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    TrUmP dErAnGeMeNt SyNdRoMe.

    His crimes are plain as day, but they treat him almost literally like a God. You cannot criticize or question him, under any circumstances, for any reason.
     
  14. deb4rockets

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    That's what you call Cult mentality.
     
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    What policies or favors did Trump execute to benefit investors "enriching" Trump?
     
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    I agree that this is troubling and disgusting.
     
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    Can you tie a particular Trump decision that went against the interests of the American people and benefited an investor?
     
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    Are you serious? Trump selling UAE our most advanced semiconductors right after they invested in his fake crypto scam. US Intel says UAE will then give those chips to China which will then build weapons to kill Americans with.

    You're brainwashed
     
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    And you're a lying parrot.

    Chat GPT:

    Short answer: this claim is mostly exaggerated and mixes some real concerns with unsupported or false assertions.

    Let’s break it down carefully.


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    ✅ What is actually true

    1) There is a real U.S.–UAE chip deal

    The U.S. (under Donald Trump) allowed or explored allowing the UAE to buy advanced AI chips from U.S. companies.

    Reports mention large quantities of high-end chips (e.g., Nvidia AI chips) being part of the deal.



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    2) There are real national security concerns

    U.S. officials have worried that:

    The UAE has ties with China

    Advanced tech could potentially be accessed by China indirectly


    Critics and analysts have warned about risk of technology diversion.


    So yes: concern about China gaining access is real and documented.


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    3) There was a UAE investment linked to Trump crypto ventures

    Reporting indicates a large investment tied to a Trump-linked crypto business involving UAE figures.


    This fuels conflict-of-interest concerns, though it’s still debated.


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    ❌ What is exaggerated or unsupported

    1) “Trump is selling our most advanced semiconductors”

    ❌ Misleading

    These are:

    regulated exports

    typically subject to licenses, safeguards, and conditions


    The U.S. government still controls exports—this is not a simple “sale to whoever.”



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    2) “UAE will give them to China”

    ❌ Not proven

    This is a risk concern, not an established fact

    In fact:

    Deals often include security requirements and oversight

    UAE has taken steps to align more with U.S. tech standards




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    3) “US Intel says China will build weapons to kill Americans”

    ❌ No credible evidence of this specific claim

    There is no verified statement from U.S. intelligence agencies making that direct claim

    This is fear-based amplification of a general risk (tech leakage)



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    4) “Right after they invested in his fake crypto scam”

    ❌ Highly loaded and partially unsupported

    While:

    there are reports of UAE-linked crypto investment


    Calling it:

    a “fake crypto scam” is opinion, not established fact




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    ⚖️ What’s really going on (balanced view)

    Critics say:

    There could be a conflict of interest

    The deal may increase risk of China accessing advanced AI tech

    Crypto + foreign investment + policy decisions = appearance of corruption


    Supporters say:

    The UAE is a U.S. ally, not an adversary

    Deals include security controls and oversight

    Expanding chip exports:

    strengthens U.S. industry

    builds alliances against China




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    Bottom line

    Partly true:

    UAE investment, chip deals, and China-related concerns are real


    Misleading / exaggerated:

    Claims that chips will go to China

    Claims that U.S. intelligence says they’ll be used to “kill Americans”

    Framing it as proven corruption or a “scam”



    The viral claim takes real issues (security + conflicts of interest) and turns them into definitive, worst-case assertions that are not proven.


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    If you want, I can show you what safeguards are typically put in place to prevent chip diversion to China—that’s key to understanding how serious the risk actually is.
     
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    Are you dumb?

    1. These are:

    regulated exports

    typically subject to licenses, safeguards, and conditions


    The U.S. government still controls exports—this is not a simple “sale to whoever.”

    That is not denying the fact that we will allow advanced chips to be sold to China. Nvidia ceo literally went to the middle east with trump to sign the deal. No **** they'll sell them

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    2) “UAE will give them to China”

    ❌ Not proven

    This is a risk concern, not an established fact

    In fact:

    Deals often include security requirements and oversight

    China gets their oil from the middle east and is the largest customer for the Arabs. If you think they won't give them the chips then you're a effin idiot

    3. If you don't think China will use the advanced chips for their military to control the world then again you're an idiot. No **** they will

    4. They invested in Trumps stable coin which is a crypto alternative to the dollar. No **** it's a scam

    Again you're very dumb and gullible
     

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