Pointlessly trading the Nets top pick for a Suns future pick is a fire able offense

Ime saved Stone's job these past two seasons and gave the fanbase hope. In return, Stone did nothing to address the lack of guard depth, even after FVV got injured, and he sat on his hands at the trade deadline when there were combo guards available that could've improved the offense.

Let's face it, Stone is bad at this. Exchanging picks with Brooklyn was done under the assumption that he had already done well by drafting the franchise's cornerstones, and he wanted to extend the window for using his draft capital to bring in another star player. This season proved that he failed at drafting a star player, and we would be better off keeping those future picks to make draft selections. But Stone has gone too far down this path after the KD trade to turn back now, which is why I think he would foolishly trade those picks away this offseason to help KD. That's why Fertitta needs to bring in someone new to take over.

 

Silas pointed out 3 years ago that Sengun's defense is trash, sadly no one listens to him

 

This is the answer. But, just to expand on it.

At the time of the trade it was considered a 2 for 4 picks deal to stretch our pick window out. The '25 pick was supposed to be much worse for us but the Suns were so bad last year that it was effectively a wash. That makes the trade essentially a 1 for 3 pick trade.

If someone told you while that trade was being made that we would be able to move just the Suns '25 pick with Dillon Brooks and Green after he had proven himself to be a negative value contract for Kevin Durant, you would have laughed at them.

As mentioned, the Nets would have never tanked this year if they didn't have their pick so we basically traded 8-10 worst team odds in '26 for 3 picks.

I also think people are really underrating the Suns '29 pick. They are seeing success with a bunch of hustle guys. History shows this type of season, with a roster like that, are more of an aberration and you should expect them to get worse as these guys get new contracts.

 

I think a big part of the KD trade was just getting off of Jalen's contract - they admitted it was a mistake and made the best of it.

This team would look a lot different with a healthy FVV (or any competent point guard) and we probably aren't having these conversations about KD.

Getting that competent point guard wasn't in the cards - none of the trade deadline guys was really going to move the needle and were cost prohibitive.

 

I remember this. Around the time his fans here started accusing Silas as racist lol. What a era!!

 

If you have a high volume low efficiency shooter you had better have way above average free through attempts at a high percentage AND loads of offensive rebounding. It's the only way to make that work. Most of the time such players are massive drags on their team.

and i hope you have a great weekend.

 

Yawn. The fire Stone crowd is getting really tiresome.

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My goodness.

 

Even while tanking the Nets pick was 9th last year, so taking a swing at Flagg would have been a mistake. The only 2 guys who look ok past 9th so far are DQ which is basically a black Sengun and Colin Coward who while solid isnt a game changer and also isnt a pg or ball handler.

In the 2025 offseason Ben Simmons contract which was a max contract expired. Nets drafted 5 rookies in the 2025 draft with the express purpose of tanking for 2026.

To keep insisting they would be bad this year if they didnt have their picks is wrong since they would have Bridges or wouldve used some of that draft capital to get vets in and would also have used the expiring salary to sign someone to help the team. The Nets were literally above 0.500 last hear before they traded their guys to suck.

In the Nets trade Rockets gave up a pick and swap for 2 picks and 2 swaps. One of those picks we already used for KD, so the Rockets generated part of a KD trade, a pick and 2 swaps from the trade.

If we didnt do the trade we would have the 2026 Nets pick and then our asset pipeline is done. 2026 Nets would have Bridges. would be trying to compete, they have capspace so why keep insisting that the current Nets team wouldnt be competitive if they didnt own their pick?

It makes zero sense except to Stone haters who are ready to run with any scenario just to frame him to be bad.

 

We got more picks and swaps due to the trade lol.

The 2025 draft turned into the 9th pick for the Nets, which player in the draft wouldve been a star at 9th that would change our chances? If you think Sengun and Amen suck you think DQ will be better? lol

We spent so much time going back and forth before, I see you are still hopelessly ignorant about the salary cap and what being 1M under the apron means. After FVV got injured, how can you sign someone when you only have 1M left? The vet min is 3M smh.

 

the people who are saying the nets pick wouldn't be a top pick if they had it are being disingenious.

Nets were already a bottom 5 team with Mikal and Cam Johnson. also saying that teams without their draft pick don't tank are completely disregarding the fact that we got teams like the Pelicans who are bottom 6 without their pick and with more talent. you don't need to have ur pick to suck.

It never made sense to begin with and it was primarily done to get Devin Booker and when that pipe dream crashed, they pivoted towards KD. U could have gotten KD with the Nets pick.

Stone is an idiot.

 

Cedric Coward, Khaman Maluach, Collin Murray-Boyles, Carter Bryant...all were still available at the 9th pick. Would you rather have Dillon Brooks and one of the listed players or Kevin Durant right now? None of those guys may turn out to be superstars but it would've at least been a chance to add another effective player on a cheap contract.

I know how the salary cap works. Even before the FVV injury I was saying Stone needed to add another guard. I would've avoided the KD trade and kept the roster mostly the same from last year. I would've drafted another player in the 2025 and gotten another guard on a cheap contract to motivate Jalen Green (e.g. Collin Sexton). There was cap room to make that work but would've probably meant saying goodbye to some members of the stay ready crew. We would've been a deeper team if we had done that and better off in the long run.

It's been reported that even the Rockets wouldn't have traded for KD if they knew FVV would get injured. That admission would automatically make the KD trade a bad one. An even better question is how deep of a roster do you have if all it takes is an injury to FVV to derail your title hopes?

They should've stayed the course.

It's a bad look for Stone that after a 5 year rebuild a 37 year old KD is the best player on the team, so much so the team loses in the minutes when he has to take a rest on the bench. We don't have a complete roster, just a shiny hood ornament in KD that's on a hooptie.

 

I don’t agree with this at all. We are undefeated when KD doesn’t play. The team just defers way too much when he’s out there. Problem is they don’t know how to play with him. Forcing him the ball leads to bad turnovers and he makes our offense so stagnant. Yet the flip side of this I’m pretty sure we haven’t won a game sengun missed.

 

Im on the boat that we should have stayed young.

But I understand us trading Jalen Green. Had we just kept adding draft picks, we probably would have stayed right on par with where we are at now and maybe in a better position once KD retired.

 

None of these guys are as good as KD and none of the guys you mention even project to be future all stars so your point is moot. Dillon Brooks who is averaging 56% TS and Khaman Maluach is gonna save this team over KD? Oh wait dont forget Jalen and his 50% TS. LMAO what the hell are you smoking? Instead of a superstar like KD I would rather have role player Brooks and a project who cant shoot like Maluach, Boyles or Carter? Cuz thats what we need right more roleplayers who cant shoot to pair with Amen and Sengun.


If we had stayed the course, the team would be 0.500 right now and be gifting OKC a top pick. Is that what you want? In that alternate universe you'd be making this post wanting Stone fired for having failed the rebuild.

We only rebuilt for 3 yrs, by yr 4 the team was 0.500 and by yr 5 the team was second seed. But sure keep tacking on years just to fake your point.

KD is averaging 26/5/4 on near 50/40/90 splits. The only players objectively better than him are MVP candidates. To say its bad look he is the best player on this is a complete joke. Dude is a top 10 player of all time.

Without the trade this team would be trash tier, lacking KD's shot making skills and stuck with Jalen's chucking for 2 more years. Acting like role players like Khaman Maluach or Carter Bryant is gonna be worth being a trash team the entire season just shows you have poor analytical ability.

We already saw this last year, without FVV the team went 11-11, and the West is even tougher this year than last year. Freaking Lakers with Luka, Reeves and Lebron, Nuggets, Spurs and Wolves all these teams are better. With FVV getting injured the entire season if we didnt do the KD trade this team would be trash and instead of having our own pick we would just be making OKC stronger.

The only major mistake Stone did was signing DFS to our entire MLE, dude has been a waste of space so far. But having one mistake doesnt mean his entire rebuild has been a mistake, even that contract is non guaranteed and wipable by next year. Thats way than Morey giving Embiid and PG 5 yr contracts.

 

But but but he better than Durant. Durant is just a shiny ornament. Rather have Brooks and Maluach/Boyles/Carter than hood ornament Durant amirite

Seriously you should just stop. You seem to be a good poster but your hatred of Stone is making you say the most ridiculous ****. At a time everyone is complaining about our offense arguing we would be better off with Brooks and 2 more guys who cant shoot is just ridiculous.

 

You act like Jalen doesnt always go off for a month or so every season lol