This is a right wing pattern of behavior. Any right winger that causes cognative dissonance is declared a leftist. Its been going on for the 20+ years I've been arpund here. Hitler was an ultra-liberal leftist is one that has come up pretty regularly over the years. GWB and Trump were both disavowed and declared extreme liberals at various points around here. Basically, if famous conservative has done something that could be embarasing, some conservative keyboard warrior will gaslight to try to prove that they were never REALLY conservative, despite all the evidence.
You mean "evidence" like the video interview that I provided that you didn't watch because you despise the truth?
Nobody has ever accused Hitler of being a "liberal" but he was most definitely a leftist. Below is a partial definition with which I agree. The simplest distinction between liberals and leftists is that liberals support capitalism and want to make changes within it, while leftists vouch for an alternative economic system entirely.Oct 28, 2022 https://www.lawrentian.com › arch... The difference between leftists and liberals - The Lawrentian
Exactly. That's why in reality you are a communist atheist even though you say you are a pro capitalist Christian. Words have no meaning.
Exactly. Hitler was evil because he believed in collectivism and believed profit motives for healthcare and defense are bad.
Conservatives only want to cut programs for disadvantaged and taxes Easy to talk the talk, hard to walk the walk. The older this countriesthe harder it gets .
Tucker Carlson is a prime example right now. The guy's been a figurehead for far right politics and far right talk shows, but now conservatives are calling him a leftist for his views on Israel.
I never really liked the guy. Just the way he talks is really annoying. Doesn't mean he can't be right sometimes. But the whole anti-Ukraine, anti-Israel attitude and the praise for Putin's Russia is very ignorant.
Primarily I think it is the decline of religious identity in general People are giving up religious identity Rocket River
That is a real reach. Most of the leaders of the Nazi party were not Christian and were strongly against Christianity. There was a lot of animosity towards Jews because of their perceived involvement with Marxism and anarchist politics. Couple that with some cultural differences and there was a powder keg. The conflict between Nazi and Jew ultimately had very little to do with religion and everything thing to do with being a scape goat and perceived genetic inferiority. The Nazi leadership wanted to re-invent German culture, to scrap it all and start over. That meant they needed a divide and conquer strategy and the removal of anyone that protested it to hard. Europe was NOT a very friendly place for non-europeans and anyone that did not fit their cultural identity. I would argue that to this day Europe still isn't.
The communists and anarchists did betray Germany from the perspective of a German that strongly supported the Kaiser and believed that the First War was justified, and that Germany was destined to be a colonial power. They actively worked to undermine the war effort and their members often did everything to avoid service in the military. Further, after World War I, they only became more outspoken in their criticism of German veterans and supporters of the Kaiser and conservative and traditional German institutions. As for Jews - I have researched this quite a bit. There is ZERO correlation between Jews and avoiding military service. Indeed, a slightly high percentage of German Jews served in World War I than Christian Germans. There were some prominent Jews that were outspoken supporters of left wing politics, but there were also a lot of Christian Germans as well. The Weimer Republic was beneficial for Jews in general, as it broke down some of the long standing institutional prejudices against Jews and that resulted in resentment from the upper crust Germans that supported the Kaiser and it also upset many of the Germans outside the major cities that were not wealthy, but they had been raised with conservative values through the Protestant Churches and some Catholic Churches. Couple that with economic issues that disproportionately impacted the working class - and German veterans that had been indoctrinated by the Kaiser and had PTSD and difficulty finding work. It isn't an easy issue - as it is multi faceted, and ultimately Jews were the scape goat for the fall of the social order in Germany.
I wasn't talking about the Nazis, but anti-Semitism. Who knows what Hitler believed, but he publicly stated he was a Christian, which many historians believe he did so to court Christian support during the early years when the Nazis had not yet gained authoritarian control. The Nazis were extreme right-wing nationalists that believed in a supreme race and I think originated the idea of Positive Christianity, a modified Christianity that removed all references to the Jews, changed Jesus to be of Aryan bloodline, and even called Hitler the Messiah... They persecuted well beyond Jews, including Christians and if they held on, some historian believe they would have exterminated Christians as well, at least those that weren't reformed to their liking.
Spencer came up with the term "alt-right", and was a leader of that movement very early on. He was even the keynote speaker at the "Unite the Right" rally in Charlottesville. The man openly celebrated the election of Donald Trump. He was a member of a number of far right organizations while in college and bonded with Trump disciple Stephen Miller. Almost all of the damage that Spencer has done to society has been while he has been a right wing conservative - he now identifies as a libertarian from the last time I saw an interview with him. He claimed in the interview to now be a moderate independent after his Russian wife left him for beating her.
Hitler was definitely not a Christian. He said a lot of things, especially early in his life. His father had him baptized as Catholic, but also hated Christianity and did not believe in God. He did it for social reasons. Hitler by the time he was a teenager said that he hated the Catholic Church and was a German Christian, which was a brand of Protestant Christianity that was very connected to the cultural heritage of Germany and had little to do with the actual historical figure of Christ. Later he was angry that every Nazi party member was ex-communicated from the Catholic Church, and he responded by jailing and killing the top clergy in Germany. He later used Christianity as a metaphor for Germany - claiming that Jesus was not divine, not a Jew and was Aryan. So essentially Christianity wasn't Christianity. Around the time he had control of Germany he stated that Christianity was the religion of slaves and losers. He also discussed the removal and murder of Christianity in Germany. He believed in Providence and destiny - at least when it came to his own survival. As weird and distorted as it seems - Hitler really believed that God was Germany and her history and future. Germany wasn't the chosen people - Germany WAS God in every possible way imaginable, and the failure of Germany laid at the feet of the German people.
Well, I guess that's what I'm trying to convey to you all. Spencer is not and has never been a "right-wing conservative". You obviously did not watch the interview of him that I shared.
