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Discussion in 'Houston Texans' started by sydmill, Nov 17, 2023.

  1. percicles

    percicles Contributing Member

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    What’s this man moaning about? His client Xavier McKinney signed a massive deal.
     
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  2. MadMax

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    At the end of the day we don’t take Ls and we move like ninja dogs with socks on our paws so peeps can’t hear us and also we’re hard and if you don’t believe us just ask cause we let ya know cause like we already said we don’t take Ls so yeah
     
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  3. Xopher

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    Because the top RBs went, except Henry. Most of the top DLs went. Most of the top of well basically every position went. Except WRs and his are supposedly the two best.
     
  4. steveng125

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    This is the duo the Texans been waiting for

    Joe Mixon and Derrick Henry
     
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    I loathe that CJ is represented by Mulugheta...
     
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  6. steveng125

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    I can see CJ going to the chargers or rams at some point in his career. He loves LA to much
     
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  7. raining threes

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    Then it's very unlikely DH will become a Texan.
     
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  8. raining threes

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    Ditto my friend

    A despicable human being.
     
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    Joe Mixon and Pat Queen
     
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  10. Xopher

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    Me too, but QB is different. No top tier QB leaves their team on the 1st contract after the rookie contract. Any decent agent would drive the price up. Any other position is replaceable. You can find someone at 90% of whatever player you have for less money. Not so with QB.
     
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    FLASH21 Heart O' Champs

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    He’s tops in the league, huge weapon in the playoffs.

    Bill Burr can suck it.
     
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  12. raining threes

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    Time to move on after year 6 or 7 of Stroud being down on Kirby if DM is still his agent.

    Can't win with the QB taking up a huge amount of cap space.
     
  13. Xopher

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    Tell that to Kansas City.
     
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  14. raining threes

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    Other than Brady and Mahomes tell me what highly paid QB has won a championship?
     
  15. Xopher

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    That wasn't the discussion. This was about the agent. My point was for QB it doesn't matter who the agent is. A QB is going to get paid. DM sucks, but he won't affect the signability. If he keeps it up he will set a record for a 2nd contract. Whether that is prudent or not is another discussion. Also to prove your point about cap %, Brady never had a high% when he won a Super Bowl. The next highest to Mahomes was Steve Young.
     
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  16. FLASH21

    FLASH21 Heart O' Champs

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    I’d prefer Wiggins but if he’s gone by 23, for sure take Mitchell.
     
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    In the last 15 years, the only QB I can think of that was NOT highly paid was Nick Foles.

    Mahomes and Brady prove that not having a top talent (i.e, highly paid) QB is the biggest hurdle to winning a championship.
     
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    Well since those two have been in like 13 or 14 Super Bowls combined or something ridiculous like that, doesn't it kind of prove the point that you can't replicate QB talent and fit??
     
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    There is a lot of truth to that.

    One stat that stands above the rest is the percentage of cap space used by QBs and Super Bowl wins. The highest paid Super Bowl winning QB was Tom Brady in 2020. His cap hit was $28 million, or just over 14% of the cap. Some would say that is an outlier because a lot of veterans took pay cuts to join the Bucs and chase a ring.

    The next highest paid was Mathew Stafford, at a $20 million hit, or just over 10% of the cap. The next highest percentage was Peyton Manning in 2015, his hit was $15 million, but almost 12% of the cap that year. The rest of the winners have been QBs finishing out rookie deals.

    The only QB who can beat that this year is Mahomes, with a nearly $36 million hit and 17% of the cap.

    It's a huge risk unless you can get vets to take pay cuts to chase a ring. But...that isn't gonna work long.
     
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