To draft a star, there has to be one there to pick. Stone never really had a shot at the players that have turned out to be stars. They were drafted ahead of Stones picks Wemby, Chet, Banchero, Brandon Miller .... I didn't want Jalen, I was one of maybe 2-3 people who wanted Barnes. That said, Jalen was probably the right pick in the moment - he checked all the boxes of a star .... IF he worked out, you had your franchise player. Hell, if he ever figures out how to shoot, he can still be a star. As for Jabari, who picked behind him would you take in his place right now today. Yep, Chet is a monster and Paolo has been better, but they went ahead of Stones pick .... I think most people would just pick Jabari all over again. There wasn't a better player taken behind him and there's still a lot of development potential that hasn't been tapped - the team has focused on Jalen and all but ignored Jabari as a 3D shooter. Looking back on the past 4 drafts, they have been really poor. 20 - Ant and Tyrese Haliburton (maybe you throw in Lamelo but I don't) 21 Franz Wagner 22 Chet, Banchero & Jabari 23 Wemby & Miller. This years draft doesn't have the obvious star at the top, but it does look to have talent beyond the obvious.
It's easy to give everything when you've got nothing to give and in his situation is actuality just taking $37 million from the org this year and $40 million next year.
pretty sure J-Dub will be a star. But I’m not killing Stone for the Bari pick. Just don’t think he’s gonna end up being worth a #3 pick.
The way Orlando played the draft makes me think we did have a chance at Paolo. Seems like Orlando was willing to trade the first pick.
We either have to go all in on these picks before the draft or they will become way less valuable. The 24 pick is the highest we are going to see. The nets owner will not tank and Simmons will be tradeable this upcoming year. The nets will not be in the lottery after this year if even that.
Yeah, that's my reading, too. When they couldn't find a taker, they went for the guy they wanted all along.
Gotta disagree big time there. Boston didn't do that. I really don't want to deal this year's pick, unless it's for Grade A Prime Beef. But, I'm for moving one or two with FVV's contract in the RIGHT deal. We certainly don't need to be in any hellfire hurry though. We have them in checkmate. The Nets have a bunch of late firsts, and Ben simmons contract. BKN isn't rebuilding, but they'll likely fall apart. Their ownership will never learn. FA's, whatever. Also, injuries happen and they have no margin for error.
I would definitely take J-Dub over Jabari at this point. But that is hindsight talking. Bari was a consensus top 3 talent and and 8 more teams passed on Williams before he finally gotten taken. There was no realistic chance of Stone reaching that far even if looking back it might have been the better pick.
Simmons is done. I’m thinking that the best case scenario for Brooklyn is that next year they win about as many games as they did this year. i’m not trading those picks unless I am getting something amazing.
Hell they are competing for the playin this year. They have bridges, cam, will probably re-sign Claxton, expiring Simmons contract, ny market and an owner that will swing for the fences. They will be right around where they are this year at worst next year. I agree they should tan, but they won’t. They will be mediocre for years but so will their draft picks.
Brooklyn Nets 2024 1RP status: 25-37 which currently is the 8th pick Top 1: 6.0% Top 4: 26.3% Next scheduled games have 6 straight on the road and next 10 out of 11 are road games; 9-19 for away games which is a 32% win rate Including the percentage from the Rockets 2024 1RP owed to OKC unless Top 4, Rockets have a 10.5% of Top 1 and 41.26% of Top 4.
Correction: 9 out of 11 games (5R 2H 4R) 2 home games likely split, 16-18 home record. Current prediction: 3-8 record after 11 games; 28-45 total record
