You're right it exposes a greater problem but the article is the problem because it is written as if the abortion ban is the reason for the pregnancies
What is 40% of rape related pregnancies? You saying in regards to Texas representing 40%? Makes total sense - look at the other states in the study. Totally believable that Texas makes up a massive amount of the population.
How are they at risk for prosecution/jail time? Outside of extremist pushing for these laws, there is no current laws that will punish anyone for having an abortion. Only the medical team that performs the abortion.
How does that make since that a state that a state that makes up 10% represents 40%? It's rape rate isn't in the top 10 How does ban result in more pregnancies?
If you look at that area, Texas makes up a lot more than 10% of that population. And the point is that rape pregnancies are going to be higher in Texas because of the strict laws. So yeah, it makes total sense. Not sure why you think Texas is only 10% - none of those states have a high population.
Texas is 9% of the population. There is nothing about area changes that Explain how strict laws result in more pregnancies. Pregnancies is biological. Explain your reasoning
@Sweet Lou 4 2 Texas doesn't seem to have an abnormal rape rate. So with rapes following in line with population or slightly higher how how can it b e four times the population percentage in pregnancy results. Ifyour stupid ass population realizations were true they wouldn't come close to four times
I skimmed over OP's article but I didn't take it that way. For me, it meant the rape victims couldn't perform abortions so the number rose for states that outlawed abortions. The chronicle article from what OP's article is referencing has more details: Following the June 2022 Supreme Court ruling that overturned Roe v. Wade, the researchers estimated there were 519,981 rapes associated with 64,565 pregnancies during the four to 18 months after states implemented total abortion bans. Of those pregnancies, an estimated 5,586 occurred in states with exceptions for rape and 58,979 in states with no exceptions. In the five states with rape exceptions, strict gestational limits and requirements to report the rape to law enforcement make it harder for most survivors to qualify, the study said. There were 10 or fewer legal abortions per month in the five states with rape exceptions, the study said, indicating that survivors with access to abortion care still cannot receive it in their home state. ... Researchers at Harvard Medical School and the University of California, San Francisco, also carried out the study. They relied on several different sources for their analysis, including survey and crime report data from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, the FBI and the Bureau of Justice Statistics. They estimated the numbers of girls and women aged 15-45 who had survived rape that could result in pregnancy in each state after the bans took effect, then applied estimates of the pregnancy rate from rape. The study has its limits. The researchers noted that such “highly stigmatized” experiences are difficult to capture accurately in surveys. They also used sources that contained data from before states implemented abortion bans. The researchers could not analyze trends over time, so it’s also unclear whether the estimates represent an increase from previous years. You're right, even if some TX prosecutors don't know the law they're charging these women with. At worst, pregnant women in TX who self-induce abortions risk complications from coat hangers or ODing on off-label drugs. These current anti-abortion laws are sensible, and are not written by cave dwelling fundamentalists! Btw, I don't know if the terrists have won in OK, but they must think TX is behind the curve: https://oksenate.gov/sites/default/files/2019-12/os63.pdf §63-1-733. Self-induced abortions No woman shall perform or induce an abortion upon herself, except under the supervision of a duly licensed physician. Any physician who supervises a woman in performing or inducing an abortion upon herself shall fulfill all the requirements of this article which apply to a physician performing or inducing an abortion. Added by Laws 1978, c. 207, § 5, eff. Oct. 1, 1978. Amended by Laws 1997, c. 133, § 525, eff. July 1, 1999. NOTE: Laws 1998, 1st Ex.Sess., c. 2, § 23 amended the effective date of Laws 1997, c. 133, § 525 from July 1, 1998, to July 1, 1999
Maybe I'm reading to much into the purpose of the study. I understand there is much more concern about rape rel pregnancies. I will back off the criticism of the study implying there are more rape-related pregnancies. I don't understand why it keeps throwing in the qualification of it being limited to not know if there is an increase.
@Sweet Lou 4 2 These the people wo did the study Samuel L. Dickman, MD1; Kari White, PhD2; David U. Himmelstein, MD3; Emily Lupez, MD4; Elizabeth Schrier, MD5; Steffie Woolhandler, MD, MPH3 Author Affiliations 1Planned Parenthood of Montana, Billings, Montana 2Resound Research for Reproductive Health, Austin, Texas 3Hunter College, City University of New York, New York 4Department of Medicine, Cambridge Health Alliance, Cambridge, Massachusetts 5Department of Medicine, University of California, San Francisco JAMA Intern Med. Published online January 24, 2024. doi:10.1001/jamainternmed.2024.0014 I have no reason to question their motives. I'm not the most educated person but a lot of us have taken basic statistics course in college. I think a non biased view by most will lead to a suspicion of Texas representing 40% of those pregnancies. At the end of day pregnancy is a pure biological result of sex As academics the people who did the study should question it
Why is it that Texas, which is probably 40% of the population of the study, is so surprising that it would make up 40% of those pregnancies? Doesn't take a math wizard to figure out that's about expected.
"26K rape-related pregnancies in 16 months after abortion ban, study shows" https://abc13.com/texas-abortion-la...d-pregnancies-roe-v-wade-overturned/14359073/ "... in 2020, Texas had an estimated total 13,509 rape offenses — more than any other state, including California's 13,449 estimated total offenses." https://www.politifact.com/factchec...had-highest-number-rape-offenses-2020-did-no/ So we appear to be seeing a lot more of this crime in about three years time (by several thousand it appears). I wonder what else has been increasing in the last three years? Any correlations?
Oh, wait, are you insinuating immigrants? Well, I tell you what, illegals don't commit more rapes per population than Bubby Gump, Freedom Frank, Pastor Paul, and all the other good old child molesting, women abusing American men. You do know the majority of rapes are by family members or acquaintances don't you? 59% of rapes reported were by acquaintances and 34% were family members. The fact is it could be Dear Daddy, Uncle Fester, your child's minister, teachers, or coaches, your daughter's high school or college friends or boyfriends, the boys at the college frat party, or that neighbor man who seems so nice.
Why would Texas be 40 of the population in the study? Let's take away yet another ridiculous qualification From the article the researchers estimate there were 519,981 rapes associated with 64,565 pregnancies during the four to 18 months after states implemented total abortion bans following Roe v. Wade being overturned in June 2022.[ Based on that it's just a nationwide study. Texas has an above average fertility rate compared to other but not high enough to say it's 4x more than it's population percentage in this study. I'm obviously not as smart or as informed as these researchers and apparently it wasn't a red flag to them but statistically speaking rape related pregnancies are the type of occurances that should follow a state's population percentage. Alaska has an abnormal rape rate, the other states fall in line. Texas’s rape rate is 14th. This 40% does not make sense
