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Jarrett Allen, the Rocket who isn't

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by topfive, Jan 14, 2021.

  1. gmoney411

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    Nope. People have been complaining about Allen being greatly undersold so how much better the pick would have been is relevant to me. I have repeatedly said or agreed that the Rockets could have gotten more for Allen. But my guess is that it probably would not have been much more at the deadline last year. At a certain point I think it's ok to just take the pick and move on instead of haggling for a slightly better deal. If the reports about getting offered a first for Gordon are true I wish they would have just taken it instead of trying for a better first.
     
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  2. YOLO

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    Big mistake by Stone.

    Why keep Oladipo and trade Allen?
     
  4. YOLO

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    Because of this. He wanted to keep one. Surprise! it was the wrong one. imagine if dipo accepted like he should have. Stone got saved by a player being dumb

     
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    Jarrett wanted a max contract and we were about to go on a full rebuild. Yes, I'll take Allen over scrubby Jabari
     
  6. YOLO

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    fake news assumption

    He ends up making less than max and taking a mediocre $20 mil per contract and is now underpaid as a starting all star center. He was also a measly 22 at the time and already a proven defensive center
     
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    Stone's fixation with Oladipo was insane in hindsight. WTF was he thinking?
     
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    Oladipo didn't even have upside at that point. He had been back from his injury for months and was more washed than an old pair of jean. It's like Stone never bothered watching new film.
     
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    It's bizarre.
     
  10. topfive

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    Even at the time, it was a moot point. If we kept Allen and couldn't come to an agreement on a new contract, we could've easily sent him off at the trade deadline for usable assets. Keeping Oladipo instead was a gigantic mistake.
     
  11. YOLO

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    you mean Josh Christopher isn't enough to show for him?
     
  12. topfive

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    Embarrassing that Stone was so short-sighted. Forget about drafting Green, this was the easiest of Stone's mistakes to see in advance.
     
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    Stone would’ve been the biggest laughingstock of the 21st century had Oladipo not been delusional

    when I heard he had offered Dipo a contract extension, it was at that point that it became 100% official for me that we are screwed with this guy running things
     
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    I’m sure if Dipo had accepted that ludicrous extension, we’d have had the usual suspects on here lauding the movie trying to tell people how Dipo’s contract could now be used in a deal for some mythical star…that he’s now a valuable trade chip, especially in the final year when he’s an expiring :rolleyes::rolleyes:
     
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    It was obvious from day 1 that Stone was unqualified to be GM and this blunder was just the beginning. He's beyond needing to be fired at this point, he should never work in the NBA again.
     
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    Stone was delusional about Oladipo, then KPJ and probably now about Green. He is pretty much consistent about it. He got bailed out in the first two but the cost is increasing at each iteration.

    The bomb is ticking for another colossal mistake.
     
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    2021 article on Dipo from Ben DuBose

    Though many around the NBA found Houston’s trade return for Victor Oladipo underwhelming, Rockets GM Rafael Stone defended his deal with Miami in Monday’s post-deadline press conference.

    “We had organizationally made a decision that the Victor fit… wasn’t a good one,” he said. “So, at that point, what do you do? Then, it became make a deal that has some upside, and move on to the next stage.”

    “We really like the guys in the deal,” Stone said. “Kelly [Olynyk] and Avery [Bradley] are both guys we’ve liked for several years. And then, the opening up a spot for the current players on our roster, playing time opportunities, particularly for Kevin [Porter Jr.], was important.

    Stone pointed out that the Rockets have an affordable team option on Bradley’s contract for the 2021-22 season, and they will have Bird rights to help retain Olynyk beyond this year, if they desire.​


    A year later
    • Veteran guard Avery Bradley will not be returning to the Rockets in the 2021-22 season, according to Shams Charania of The Athletic. In what Charania refers to as a “mutual decision,” Houston will turn down the $5.9-million team option.
    • 8/2/2021 - NBA free agency reports: Rockets lose Kelly Olynyk (to Pistons)
    * Theis later replaced Olynyk.
    * All the 2nd round picks to offload KPJ, not to mention the development starter minutes wasted during tank years.

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  18. Damion Laverne

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    All fireable offenses
     
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    Why is Stone still here?

    And don't say the draft, that was likely our other guy.
     
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  20. dmoneybangbang

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    I'm sorry but it's just absurd that this is some major misstep or set the Rockets back in a meaningful way.

    And what if we kept Allen and resigned him? How likely would we have traded up for Sengun, who was a non shooting PF/C to go along with an even more non shooting center in Allen? I'd argue less likely.
     
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